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Problem: 2 moOde systems, same config, same music source, different songs counts
#1
Good evening to all !

I have two moOde systems.

One is composed of a Raspberry Pi4 4GB with a HifiBerry Dac+ ADC Pro (I2S), connected by ethernet.
The other one is composed of a RaspBerry Pi 2GB with a Khadas Tone Board (USB), connected by WiFi.

Apart from the audio configuration, both have the same music source (SSD drive connected to my internet box), and the same general configuration (MPD, appearance, etc...).

Strange thing is, when I regenerate the music database after adding some albums, they have the same albums counts, but the songs counts differ.

Has anybody already encountered such a behaviour? Is there something I am missing?

Any clue will be much appreciated (before formatting both SD and starting both configurations from scratch in a future moOde release, if needs be).

Kind regards,
Renaud

PS : for the most curious ones, I didn't hear any significant difference in sound quality, both systems sound pretty good Smile
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#2
By how much do the song counts differ?

You can try the command below to see what MPD thinks.

Code:
mpc stats
Enjoy the Music!
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#3
(05-25-2020, 08:53 PM)Tim Curtis Wrote: By how much do the song counts differ?

You can try the command below to see what MPD thinks.

Code:
mpc stats

Both count 501 albums.
One shows 7477 tracks, 499 hours, 58 mins
mpc stats
Artists:   1463
Albums:     511
Songs:     7477

The other one 7021 tracks, 467 hours, 41 mins
mpc stats
Artists:   1463
Albums:     498
Songs:     7021

Even weirder !
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#4
(05-25-2020, 09:09 PM)zazouboy Wrote:
(05-25-2020, 08:53 PM)Tim Curtis Wrote: By how much do the song counts differ?

You can try the command below to see what MPD thinks.

Code:
mpc stats

Both count 501 albums.
One shows 7477 tracks, 499 hours, 58 mins
mpc stats
Artists:   1463
Albums:     511
Songs:     7477

The other one 7021 tracks, 467 hours, 41 mins
mpc stats
Artists:   1463
Albums:     498
Songs:     7021

Even weirder !

I also compared both "System Information" outputs, I have the exact same information regarding the music database regeneration :

20200525 220043 worker: Job regen_library
20200525 220043 thmcache: Start
20200525 220044 thmcache: Scanning: NAS, SDCARD, UPNP
20200525 220100 thmcache: Done: 501 album dirs processed
20200525 220332 worker: Job regen_library done
20200525 220341 worker: Job regen_thmcache
20200525 220341 thmcache: Start
20200525 220341 thmcache: Scanning: NAS, SDCARD, UPNP
20200525 220345 thmcache: flac: /var/lib/mpd/music/NAS/SSD/Flac/1 - Artistes Divers/Blue Note - The Finest in Jazz Since 1939/CD 1 - Boogie Woogie, Blues & Bop/14 - Sonny Rollins - Boogie Woogie, Blues & Bop - Tune Up.flac
20200525 220345 thmcache: flac: Zend media exception: Not a valid FLAC bitstream
20200525 220345 thmcache: flac: /var/lib/mpd/music/NAS/SSD/Flac/1 - Artistes Divers/Blue Note - The Finest in Jazz Since 1939/CD 2 - The Jazz Message/10 - Ike Quebec - The Jazz Message - Blue Samba.flac
20200525 220345 thmcache: flac: Zend media exception: Not a valid FLAC bitstream
20200525 220345 thmcache: flac: /var/lib/mpd/music/NAS/SSD/Flac/1 - Artistes Divers/Blue Note - The Finest in Jazz Since 1939/CD 3 - Hard Bop & Beyond/09 - Duke Pearson - Hard Bop & Beyond - Chili Peppers.flac
20200525 220345 thmcache: flac: Zend media exception: Not a valid FLAC bitstream
20200525 220345 thmcache: flac: /var/lib/mpd/music/NAS/SSD/Flac/1 - Artistes Divers/Blue Note - The Finest in Jazz Since 1939/CD 4 - Avant-Garde & Soul/12 - Donald Byrd - Avant-Garde & Soul - Black Byrd.flac
20200525 220345 thmcache: flac: Zend media exception: Not a valid FLAC bitstream
20200525 220345 thmcache: flac: /var/lib/mpd/music/NAS/SSD/Flac/1 - Artistes Divers/Blue Note - The Finest in Jazz Since 1939/CD 5 - The New Era/13 - Gregory Porter - The New Era - Liquid Spirit.flac
20200525 220345 thmcache: flac: Zend media exception: Not a valid FLAC bitstream
20200525 220406 thmcache: flac: /var/lib/mpd/music/NAS/SSD/Flac/Les Colocs/1998 - Dehors Novembre/09 - Les Colocs - Dehors Novembre - Dehors Novembre.flac
20200525 220406 thmcache: flac: Zend media exception: Not a valid FLAC bitstream
20200525 220417 thmcache: flac: /var/lib/mpd/music/NAS/SSD/Flac/Radiohead/2001 - Amnesiac/11 - Radiohead - Amnesiac - Life In A Glasshouse.flac
20200525 220417 thmcache: flac: Zend media exception: Not a valid FLAC bitstream
20200525 220417 thmcache: flac: /var/lib/mpd/music/NAS/SSD/Flac/Radiohead/2007 - In Rainbows/10 - Radiohead - In Rainbows - Videotape.flac
20200525 220417 thmcache: flac: Zend media exception: Not a valid FLAC bitstream
20200525 220428 thmcache: flac: /var/lib/mpd/music/NAS/SSD/Flac/Vangelis/Vangelis/Themes/14 - Vangelis - Themes - Chariots Of Fire.flac
20200525 220428 thmcache: flac: Zend media exception: Not a valid FLAC bitstream
20200525 220428 thmcache: flac: /var/lib/mpd/music/NAS/SSD/Flac/William Shatner/Has Been/11 - William Shatner - Has Been - Real.flac
20200525 220428 thmcache: flac: Zend media exception: Not a valid FLAC bitstream
20200525 220429 thmcache: flac: /var/lib/mpd/music/NAS/SSD/Flac/Willie Nelson & Wynton Marsalis/Two Men With The Blues/10 - Willie Nelson , Wynton Marsalis - Two Men With The Blues - That's All.flac
20200525 220429 thmcache: flac: Zend media exception: Not a valid FLAC bitstream
20200525 220459 thmcache: Done: 501 album dirs processed
20200525 220517 worker: Job update_library
20200525 220517 thmcache: Start
20200525 220517 thmcache: Scanning: NAS, SDCARD, UPNP
20200525 220522 thmcache: Done: 501 album dirs processed
20200525 220532 worker: Job update_library done


Also do you know why sometimes I have this message : "Zend media exception: Not a valid FLAC bitstream" and sometimes no message at all for the same track ?
Maybe I should test with the SSD drive directly attached to Raspberry Pi ?

Have a good night ! Smile
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#5
Very odd. I have multiple systems connected to same share, an SSD attached to Router and never any discrepancies in Library counts.

Consider that if both of your systems are in fact 100% same stock moOde release it must be something external to moOde software thats causing the discrepancy.

The easy troubleshoot is to swap the Ethernet connected system to WiFi or Wifi connected system to Ethernet and see of the problem follows it.
Enjoy the Music!
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#6
I'm going to go out on a limb here and guess that the messages


Code:
20200525 220345 thmcache: flac: Zend media exception: Not a valid FLAC bitstream

are the result of having FLAC encoded music tracks which have been mistreated by a misconfigured tagger which added an ID3 metadata tag.

This issue seems to turn up on our forum every six months or so.

If you upload one of those bad boys somewhere like DropBox and PM me a link to it I'll have a look.

As for the difference in Album and Track count, I dunno, but you'd need to look at the mpd log to see what it's thinking.

Regards,
Kent
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#7
Hi Tim, Kent,

Many thanks for your feedbacks.

Do you know any good Tag Editor that helps remove unwanted ID3 tags easily ?
I have some flac files that have ID3v2 or ID3v1 + Vorbis tags.
I would like to keep Vorbis tags only.

I know Musicbrainz Picard has such a feature, but you have to update tags in order to remove ID3v2 or whatever tags to keep Vorbis tags only.
Or I don't know how to use it properly.

I have a MacBook Pro as my main laptop, and additionally a Windows 10 tablet. So OS X or Windows.

Cleaning up the tags could help with the "zend media exceptions".

As for the tracks counts...
Musicbrainz counted 7069 tracks, which is different again from my moOde systems results...

Have a nice day !
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#8
win
https://wiki.gnome.org/Apps/EasyTAG
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bob
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#9
https://www.mp3tag.de/en/ for windows
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#10
(05-26-2020, 08:32 AM)kit1cat Wrote: https://www.mp3tag.de/en/ for windows

I'd second this nomination. I didn't like it at first because I didn't understand how to configure/use it but mp3tag is amazingly versatile and probably as good as it gets for a Windows app. The latest version even resizes embedded cover art.

Because I'm in the middle of reinstalling systems on my laptop I don't have a running copy just now but IIRC you'll have to go to Tools/Options/Tags/Mpeg to tell it not to write ID3v1/ID3v2 tags. Or something like that.

BTW here's a couple of quick command-line tests that a FLAC file has not been diddled with an ID3V2 tag:

1) the characters represented by the first 4 bytes in the file should be "fLaC"


Code:
pi@moode3A:/mnt/SDCARD/Stereo Test $ od -c LRMonoPhase4.flac | head -1
0000000   f   L   a   C  \0  \0  \0   " 020  \0 020  \0  \0 003 323  \0

If, instead, the file begins with the three characters "ID3" you know what happened.

2) the file command should say exactly "FLAC audio bitstream data"

Code:
pi@moode3A:/mnt/SDCARD/Stereo Test $ file LRMonoPhase4.flac
LRMonoPhase4.flac: FLAC audio bitstream data, 16 bit, stereo, 48 kHz, 1860560 samples

I forget what file reports for a mis-tagged FLAC file. You'll find it in a post somewhere in the forum.

Regards,
Kent
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