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How to get a warmer sound?
#21
(12-05-2019, 04:45 AM)CallMeMike Wrote:
(12-04-2019, 10:07 AM)stretchneck Wrote: snip..................... Very impressed with the functionality of Moode, works perfectly for me and the Tidal intergration is great - but how can I achieve a warmer sound in Moode?............... snip ................... Any tips?

Have you tried Edward's tweaks... ?     http://moodeaudio.org/forum/showthread.php?tid=749

Also have you considered that your particular DAC chip and its implementation may be the cause of a more 'clinical' sound (to your ears)? In an audiophile's paradise one should have the possibility to test a range of DAC devices now and then... Angel  After the said test the decision would boil down to which of the two makes more financial sense: change the DAC or purchase the perfect audio player...

(12-17-2019, 04:09 PM)jonners Wrote: Perhaps you could get a warmer sound just with a pair of these? https://www.amazon.co.uk/180s-Fleece-Aud...B00B97TOLY
They look very comfy
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#22
I will try reimaging an SD Card. Yes true, it actually doesn't mention Linux on Naims website. NAIM DAC-V1 is based on the Audiophilleo1 which is Linux compatible though.

It must has some Linux compatibility - it states Lunux as a source when running Moode.
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#23
Naim have this to say about Linux compatibility .....
http://www.netserverapps.com/naimaudio/u...gory_id=36

Basic takeaway....you need to "compile your own drivers"   You could check with Naim if they have any guidance here.

Otherwise the DAC V-1 seems to work but to a very limited extent....
https://www.diyaudio.com/forums/vendor-s...5a5f44da61

Confirmed here in the Pi-core database...
https://sites.google.com/site/picoreplay...f-USB-DACs
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bob
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#24
Thanks - could well be a driver issue then.
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#25
(12-05-2019, 04:45 AM)CallMeMike Wrote:
(12-04-2019, 10:07 AM)stretchneck Wrote: snip..................... Very impressed with the functionality of Moode, works perfectly for me and the Tidal intergration is great - but how can I achieve a warmer sound in Moode?............... snip ................... Any tips?

Have you tried Edward's tweaks... ?     http://moodeaudio.org/forum/showthread.php?tid=749

Also have you considered that your particular DAC chip and its implementation may be the cause of a more 'clinical' sound (to your ears)? In an audiophile's paradise one should have the possibility to test a range of DAC devices now and then... Angel  After the said test the decision would boil down to which of the two makes more financial sense: change the DAC or purchase the perfect audio player...

That topic quoted above is closed and Edward has removed his Github account where the script was hosted :-(
https://github.com/dynobot/Linux-Audio-Adjustments  does not work anymore, its a pity....

Cheers
Chris
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#26
I think these are the same tweaks?

https://github.com/brianlight/Linux-Audio-Adjustments
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#27
(05-15-2020, 09:10 AM)kit1cat Wrote: I think these are the same tweaks?

https://github.com/brianlight/Linux-Audio-Adjustments
Indeed, thanks for pointing this out.

I had found already a workaround by mounting the older moode install on my SD card with the tweaks on my desktop computer, then copied the Sound.sh and the basic-install.sh over to an archive.
The other SD with the new moode install then was mounted the same way and the Sound.sh copied to /usr/bin and the basic-install.sh to the /home.
The only thing left was to un-commend the wget line in the basic-install.sh and to run it then, done...

Cheers
Chris
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#28
Hi, now I had a bit of fun skimming through the scripts and options I started playing around and I think I found a good sound quality with the following changes in the Sound.sh (which is slightly different  to Edwards from in Brianlight's).

I uncomment the MPD Affinity and Priority as I am using a high quality external USB DAC and also gave my RPI 4 4GB RAM cores 3 an 4 to MDP exclusively. Secondly I gave my external USB DAC faster data flow by uncommenting the line.

Cheers
Chris

Sound.sh below

#!/bin/bash

#Reduce Audio thread latency
chrt -f -p 54 $(pgrep ksoftirqd/0)
chrt -f -p 54 $(pgrep ksoftirqd/1)
chrt -f -p 54 $(pgrep ksoftirqd/2)
chrt -f -p 54 $(pgrep ksoftirqd/3)

#Uncomment for MPD Affinity and Priority, chrt sets now MDP FIFO, taskset sets MDP prirority to 3rd or 4th core using RPI 4
chrt -f -p 81 $(pidof mpd)
taskset -c -p 3,4 $(pidof mpd)

#USB Dacs Uncomment to reduce USB latency
modprobe snd-usb-audio nrpacks=1

#SPDIF HAT and WiFi users Uncomment to turn off power to [Ethernet and USB] ports
#echo 0x0 > /sys/devices/platform/soc/3f980000.usb/buspower

#Reduce operating system latency
echo noop > /sys/block/mmcblk0/queue/scheduler
echo 1000000 > /proc/sys/kernel/sched_latency_ns
echo 100000 > /proc/sys/kernel/sched_min_granularity_ns
echo 25000 > /proc/sys/kernel/sched_wakeup_granularity_ns

exit
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#29
(05-15-2020, 09:10 AM)kit1cat Wrote: I think these are the same tweaks?

https://github.com/brianlight/Linux-Audio-Adjustments

I've forked that repo and tweaked the install script so that it is truly standalone.

I also put the limits tweaks into their own file, which is a much cleaner approach than the original, IMHO.

https://github.com/philrandal/Linux-Audio-Adjustments

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#30
(12-04-2019, 10:07 AM)stretchneck Wrote: Hi,

Very impressed with the functionality of Moode, works perfectly for me and the Tidal intergration is great - but how can I achieve a warmer sound in Moode?

I have tried various pieces of software including, Roon and Audiolinux.   Moode sounds very similar to Audiolinux in my opinion (similar linux underpinnings I guess) - but it's much easier to use.

It doesn't sound quite so warm and analogue like as my present reference 'Euphony Audio' (Trial version) however - I think they do something to warm up the sound in their playback engine, but I don't know what it is.  Detail retrieval is about the same between Euphony and Moode.

It has been suggested to me that Audirvana imparts more of a warm sound as well, but I'm yet to try this.

Any tips?


Hi - I too just finished tweaking Moode for Tidal. The amount of detail is there, just too bright. I left the EQs off as I didn’t have much success with those - sounded terrible. I did, however, find much success in adjusting SoX Resampling to taste. I’m streaming Tidal 16/44.1 to a Schiit Modi Multibit and found that upsampling to 24/96 (staying within the DAC‘s filter range - no MQA) seems to thicken the tone a little, but setting the quality to “medium” gives it the right amount of analog warmth. Warmth and plenty of detail - so sweet.
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