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Problem: Mobile Browser View
#1
I have successfully installed moode audio in AP- mode. 
Unfortunately the local website is not operable with my Smartphone. The screen is nearly totally white and I can't switch to "Browse" or "Playlist" for example.

  • I am using a windows phone and tried different browser- apps => All of them displayed the same rendering problems.
  • But it works like a charm on my Desktop-PC with Chrome.

Maybe this issue is caused by my Windows- Phone (Lumia 920). Do some of you have similar problems with an Android- or iOS- device?
Where are the website- files (html,css,js) for mobile view hosted?

Thanks a lot,
Sascha
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#2
(04-13-2018, 12:47 PM)paradox Wrote: I have successfully installed moode audio in AP- mode. 
Unfortunately the local website is not operable with my Smartphone. The screen is nearly totally white and I can't switch to "Browse" or "Playlist" for example.

  • I am using a windows phone and tried different browser- apps => All of them displayed the same rendering problems.
  • But it works like a charm on my Desktop-PC with Chrome.

Maybe this issue is caused by my Windows- Phone (Lumia 920). Do some of you have similar problems with an Android- or iOS- device?
Where are the website- files (html,css,js) for mobile view hosted?

Thanks a lot,
Sascha

Hi, Sascha

I've never used a Windows phone. The complete moOde UI comes up on all the Android devices in my possession and I believe Tim uses iPhones in his development. Javascript is involved in the UI. A quick Web search got me hits about Lumia and Javascript like https://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/mobi...32b10?db=5 I don't know if any of the suggestions would work for you.

What you call the website files are hosted on your moOde player. Look in directories /var/www and /var/local/www.

Regards,
Kent
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#3
(04-13-2018, 01:00 PM)TheOldPresbyope Wrote:
(04-13-2018, 12:47 PM)paradox Wrote: I have successfully installed moode audio in AP- mode. 
Unfortunately the local website is not operable with my Smartphone. The screen is nearly totally white and I can't switch to "Browse" or "Playlist" for example.

  • I am using a windows phone and tried different browser- apps => All of them displayed the same rendering problems.
  • But it works like a charm on my Desktop-PC with Chrome.

Maybe this issue is caused by my Windows- Phone (Lumia 920). Do some of you have similar problems with an Android- or iOS- device?
Where are the website- files (html,css,js) for mobile view hosted?

Thanks a lot,
Sascha

Hi, Sascha

I've never used a Windows phone. The complete moOde UI comes up on all the Android devices in my possession and I believe Tim uses iPhones in his development. Javascript is involved in the UI. A quick Web search got me hits about Lumia and Javascript like https://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/mobi...32b10?db=5 I don't know if any of the suggestions would work for you.

What you call the website files are hosted on your moOde player. Look in directories /var/www and /var/local/www.

Regards,
Kent
Hi Kent, Sascha,

I have exactly the same problem on a Nokia Lumia running WP 8.1. The UI looks like the attachment shows. Anyway the link is not helpful, neither clearing browser cache, restarting the phone nor applying different browsers (I tried nearly all of the limited number of browsers available for WP 8.1) did help. The problems exists exactly since Moode version 4.0 beta, up to version 3.8.4 I had no problems to access the UI via WP 8.1.

Currently I do not see any chance to solve this - I´m lucky to have a tablet PC running Windows 8.1 and Chrome which works fine with Moode.

Regards
Jörg


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#4
(04-13-2018, 02:12 PM)Kikaha Wrote:
(04-13-2018, 01:00 PM)TheOldPresbyope Wrote:
(04-13-2018, 12:47 PM)paradox Wrote: I have successfully installed moode audio in AP- mode. 
Unfortunately the local website is not operable with my Smartphone. The screen is nearly totally white and I can't switch to "Browse" or "Playlist" for example.

  • I am using a windows phone and tried different browser- apps => All of them displayed the same rendering problems.
  • But it works like a charm on my Desktop-PC with Chrome.

Maybe this issue is caused by my Windows- Phone (Lumia 920). Do some of you have similar problems with an Android- or iOS- device?
Where are the website- files (html,css,js) for mobile view hosted?

Thanks a lot,
Sascha

Hi, Sascha

I've never used a Windows phone. The complete moOde UI comes up on all the Android devices in my possession and I believe Tim uses iPhones in his development. Javascript is involved in the UI. A quick Web search got me hits about Lumia and Javascript like https://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/mobi...32b10?db=5 I don't know if any of the suggestions would work for you.

What you call the website files are hosted on your moOde player. Look in directories /var/www and /var/local/www.

Regards,
Kent
Hi Kent, Sascha,

I have exactly the same problem on a Nokia Lumia running WP 8.1. The UI looks like the attachment shows. Anyway the link is not helpful, neither clearing browser cache, restarting the phone nor applying different browsers (I tried nearly all of the limited number of browsers available for WP 8.1) did help. The problems exists exactly since Moode version 4.0 beta, up to version 3.8.4 I had no problems to access the UI via WP 8.1.

Currently I do not see any chance to solve this - I´m lucky to have a tablet PC running Windows 8.1 and Chrome which works fine with Moode.

Regards
Jörg

Hi, Jörg

I don't see a solution either. Knowing the problem started with 4.0 is useful. Have a look at the moOde relnotes.txt file. Many changes were made between 3.8.4 and 4.0, including updating a number of underlying packages, but Tim needed to make them to continue moving forward. Meanwhile, Microsoft admitted 6 months ago that Windows phone development is dead. Numia phone users are caught in the middle.

Regards,
Kent
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#5
(04-13-2018, 04:23 PM)TheOldPresbyope Wrote:
(04-13-2018, 02:12 PM)Kikaha Wrote:
(04-13-2018, 01:00 PM)TheOldPresbyope Wrote:
(04-13-2018, 12:47 PM)paradox Wrote: I have successfully installed moode audio in AP- mode. 
Unfortunately the local website is not operable with my Smartphone. The screen is nearly totally white and I can't switch to "Browse" or "Playlist" for example.

  • I am using a windows phone and tried different browser- apps => All of them displayed the same rendering problems.
  • But it works like a charm on my Desktop-PC with Chrome.

Maybe this issue is caused by my Windows- Phone (Lumia 920). Do some of you have similar problems with an Android- or iOS- device?
Where are the website- files (html,css,js) for mobile view hosted?

Thanks a lot,
Sascha

Hi, Sascha

I've never used a Windows phone. The complete moOde UI comes up on all the Android devices in my possession and I believe Tim uses iPhones in his development. Javascript is involved in the UI. A quick Web search got me hits about Lumia and Javascript like https://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/mobi...32b10?db=5 I don't know if any of the suggestions would work for you.

What you call the website files are hosted on your moOde player. Look in directories /var/www and /var/local/www.

Regards,
Kent
Hi Kent, Sascha,

I have exactly the same problem on a Nokia Lumia running WP 8.1. The UI looks like the attachment shows. Anyway the link is not helpful, neither clearing browser cache, restarting the phone nor applying different browsers (I tried nearly all of the limited number of browsers available for WP 8.1) did help. The problems exists exactly since Moode version 4.0 beta, up to version 3.8.4 I had no problems to access the UI via WP 8.1.

Currently I do not see any chance to solve this - I´m lucky to have a tablet PC running Windows 8.1 and Chrome which works fine with Moode.

Regards
Jörg

Hi, Jörg

I don't see a solution either. Knowing the problem started with 4.0 is useful. Have a look at the moOde relnotes.txt file. Many changes were made between 3.8.4 and 4.0, including updating a number of underlying packages, but Tim needed to make them to continue moving forward. Meanwhile, Microsoft admitted 6 months ago that Windows phone development is dead. Numia phone users are caught in the middle.

Regards,
Kent
Hi Kent,

absolutely correct. Of course it was very convenient to use Moode on the phone, but as I said: The tablet works fine. Although I really love my Windows phone and will stick to it as long as possible, the day will come when I have to change either to Android or Apple - for me the chance to choose between either pest or cholera...  Undecided But on the other hand I will then again have the convenient solution for Moode.

Regards
Jörg
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#6
Unfortunately this is probably due to the browser not supporting modern web features, and by modern I mean within the last few years rather than bleeding edge as I’ve tried to be relatively conservative when implementing features.

Looking into it a bit the likely culprit is https://caniuse.com/#search=Flex - if your version of IE is 11 there are some things we can try to work around the bugs in their implementation but given how old the devices are you’re probably better off looking into one of the relatively inexpensive new android phones.
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#7
(04-13-2018, 08:31 PM)swizzle Wrote: Unfortunately this is probably due to the browser not supporting modern web features, and by modern I mean within the last few years rather than bleeding edge as I’ve tried to be relatively conservative when implementing features.

Looking into it a bit the likely culprit is https://caniuse.com/#search=Flex - if your version of IE is 11 there are some things we can try to work around the bugs in their implementation but given how old the devices are you’re probably better off looking into one of the relatively inexpensive new android phones.

If I may comment on this topic: I have a relative new Android LG G6 with the latest Chrome Browser and experience scrolling and freezing experience since Moode 4. 
An old version on my G4 seems to have no problems at all. Downgrading the chrome on G6 helped me out with this.
Ipad with IOS 11.2.6 Safari neither.
Im not an expert but in the tech world its not the first time companies decide to ditch technology and left users unsupported without telling. Like the first Iphones did not supported Youtube....somthing with flash and Java.....

So concluding have everybody buying new equipment seems an odd solution to a problem caused by an upgrade.
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#8
Is it possible to install an earlier version of moode audio, for example version 3.8.4?
Maybe there exists a specific parameter for this install script:

cd /home/pi
sudo wget -q http://moodeaudio.org/downloads/mos/mosbuild.sh -O /home/pi/mosbuild.sh
sudo chmod +x /home/pi/mosbuild.sh

Anyway, thanks for your advices.
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#9
(04-14-2018, 09:33 AM)harsl Wrote:
(04-13-2018, 08:31 PM)swizzle Wrote: Unfortunately this is probably due to the browser not supporting modern web features, and by modern I mean within the last few years rather than bleeding edge as I’ve tried to be relatively conservative when implementing features.

Looking into it a bit the likely culprit is https://caniuse.com/#search=Flex - if your version of IE is 11 there are some things we can try to work around the bugs in their implementation but given how old the devices are you’re probably better off looking into one of the relatively inexpensive new android phones.

If I may comment on this topic: I have a relative new Android LG G6 with the latest Chrome Browser and experience scrolling and freezing experience since Moode 4. 
An old version on my G4 seems to have no problems at all. Downgrading the chrome on G6 helped me out with this.
...

So concluding have everybody buying new equipment seems an odd solution to a problem caused by an upgrade.

It's just my idle curiosity at work, but what version of Andriod and versions of (not working) and working Chrome on your LG G6? Do you have similar problems if you use the current version of an alternative browser such as Firefox or Opera?

I have a Nexus 6P phone with most recent updates
  • Android 8.1.0
  • Chrome 65.0.3325.109
  • Firefox 59.0.2
  • Opera 45.1246.125351
The moOde r41 UI seems to be working as advertised in all three browsers in portrait mode. (There's a quirk in landscape mode which is purely visual, not functional; I reported it to Tim during testing.)

Regards,
Kent
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