RE: 9.0.8 UI slow when running Camilla - Snoil - 09-16-2024
Allo Boss v1.2
aha I see. So I guess that's similar to what Budget topping dacs etc. call pre-amp mode. I suppose it is rather to be avoided.
Also it is slow as well.
RE: 9.0.8 UI slow when running Camilla - Tim Curtis - 09-16-2024
The "slowness" symptom suggests a network issue. Post the startup log from your friends system and I'll have a look.
RE: 9.0.8 UI slow when running Camilla - Snoil - 09-16-2024
Code: 20240915 205649 worker: --
20240915 205649 worker: -- Start moOde 9 series
20240915 205649 worker: --
20240915 205649 worker: Successfully daemonized
20240915 205649 worker: Wait for Linux startup
20240915 205649 worker: Linux startup complete
20240915 205649 worker: Boot config is ok
20240915 205650 worker: Session loaded
20240915 205656 worker: Package locks applied
20240915 205657 worker: File check complete
20240915 205657 worker: Debug logging off
20240915 205657 worker: --
20240915 205657 worker: -- System
20240915 205657 worker: --
20240915 205659 worker: Host name: moode
20240915 205659 worker: RPi model: Pi-4B 1.1 4GB
20240915 205659 worker: moOde release: 9.0.8 2024-08-21
20240915 205659 worker: RaspiOS: 12.6 Bookworm 64-bit
20240915 205659 worker: Linux Kernel: 6.6.31 64-bit
20240915 205659 worker: MPD version: 0.23.14
20240915 205659 worker: User id: pi
20240915 205659 worker: Home folder: /home/pi
20240915 205659 worker: Time zone: Europe/Berlin
20240915 205659 worker: Kbd layout: de
20240915 205659 worker: HDMI ports(s): on
20240915 205659 worker: HDMI-CEC: off
20240915 205700 worker: Sys LED0: off
20240915 205700 worker: Sys LED1: off
20240915 205700 worker: Reduce power: n/a
20240915 205700 worker: CPU governor: ondemand
20240915 205700 worker: Integ audio: vc4-kms-v3d
20240915 205700 worker: --
20240915 205700 worker: -- Network
20240915 205700 worker: --
20240915 205700 worker: Eth0
20240915 205700 worker: Ethernet: adapter exists
20240915 205700 worker: Ethernet: timeout off
20240915 205700 worker: Ethernet: address not assigned
20240915 205700 worker: Wlan0
20240915 205700 worker: Wireless: adapter exists
20240915 205700 worker: Wireless: country DE
20240915 205700 worker: Wireless: SSID WRKSTT5G
20240915 205700 worker: Wireless: other None
20240915 205700 worker: Wireless: timeout up to 10 secs
20240915 205700 worker: Wireless: connect to WRKSTT5G
20240915 205700 worker: Wireless: method static
20240915 205700 worker: Wireless: address 192.168.2.53
20240915 205700 worker: Wireless: netmask 255.255.255.0
20240915 205700 worker: Wireless: gateway 192.168.2.1
20240915 205700 worker: Wireless: pri DNS fe80::bad5:26ff:fe5b:cf30%wlan0
20240915 205700 worker: Wireless: domain none found
20240915 205700 worker: --
20240915 205700 worker: -- File sharing
20240915 205700 worker: --
20240915 205701 worker: SMB file sharing: on
20240915 205701 worker: NFS file sharing: off
20240915 205701 worker: DLNA file sharing: off
20240915 205701 worker: --
20240915 205701 worker: -- Special configs
20240915 205701 worker: --
20240915 205701 worker: Plexamp: not installed
20240915 205701 worker: RoonBridge: not installed
20240915 205701 worker: Allo Piano 2.1: not detected
20240915 205701 worker: Allo Boss 2: not detected, OLED script ok
20240915 205701 worker: IQaudIO AMP*: not detected
20240915 205701 worker: --
20240915 205701 worker: -- ALSA debug
20240915 205701 worker: --
20240915 205701 worker: Cards: 0:vc4hdmi0 1:vc4hdmi1 2:BossDAC 3:empty
20240915 205701 worker: 4:empty 5:empty 6:empty 7:empty
20240915 205701 worker: Mixers: 0:none 1:none 2:(Digital) 3:none
20240915 205701 worker: 4:none 5:none 6:none 7:none
20240915 205701 worker: --
20240915 205701 worker: -- Audio configuration
20240915 205701 worker: --
20240915 205701 worker: Audio device: 2:Allo Boss DAC
20240916 091654 worker: ALSA card: has not been reassigned
20240916 091654 worker: MPD config: update not needed
20240916 091654 worker: ALSA output: I2S
20240916 091654 worker: ALSA mode: Default (plughw)
20240916 091654 worker: ALSA mixer Digital
20240916 091655 worker: ALSA volume: 100% (0.00dB)
20240916 091655 worker: ALSA maxvol: 100%
20240916 091655 worker: ALSA loopback: off
20240916 091655 worker: MPD mixer CamillaDSP
20240916 091657 worker: Audio formats: S16_LE, S24_LE, S32_LE
20240916 091700 worker: CamillaDSP: WRKST1
20240916 091700 worker: CDSP volume: -8dB
20240916 091700 worker: CDSP volrange: 60dB
20240916 091700 worker: --
20240916 091700 worker: -- MPD startup
20240916 091700 worker: --
20240916 091700 worker: MPD service: started
20240916 091700 worker: MPD port 6600: accepting connections
20240916 091700 worker: MPD ALSA Default: on
20240916 091700 worker: MPD ALSA Bluetooth: off
20240916 091700 worker: MPD HTTP Server: off
20240916 091700 worker: MPD volume: 90
20240916 091700 worker: Saved MPD vol: -1
20240916 091700 worker: Saved SRC vol: 0
20240916 091700 worker: MPD crossfade: off
20240916 091700 worker: MPD ignore CUE: no
20240916 091700 worker: MPD CDSP volsync: on
20240916 091701 worker: --
20240916 091701 worker: -- Music sources
20240916 091701 worker: --
20240916 091701 worker: USB drive: MusikUSB (ntfs)
20240916 091702 worker: NVMe drives: none
20240916 091702 worker: NAS sources: none
20240916 091702 worker: --
20240916 091702 worker: -- Feature availability
20240916 091702 worker: --
20240916 091702 worker: Input select: available, Source: MPD, Output: Allo Boss DAC
20240916 091734 worker: Bluetooth: started, PIN: None, ALSA/CDSP maxvol: 100%/0dB, ALSA outmode: Standard
20240916 091734 worker: AirPlay: available
20240916 091734 worker: Spotify Connect: started
20240916 091734 worker: Squeezelite: available
20240916 091734 worker: UPnP client: started
20240916 091734 worker: Plexamp: not installed, ALSA maxvol: 100%
20240916 091734 worker: RoonBridge: not installed
20240916 091734 worker: Multiroom: available
20240916 091734 worker: GPIO buttons: available
20240916 091734 worker: HTTPS mode: available
20240916 091734 worker: Stream recorder: n/a
20240916 091734 worker: --
20240916 091734 worker: -- Peripherals
20240916 091734 worker: --
20240916 091740 worker: Local display: off
20240916 091740 worker: HDMI 4K 60Hz: off
20240916 091740 worker: On-screen kbd: off
20240916 091740 worker: Rotary encoder: off
20240916 091740 worker: USB volume knob: off
20240916 091740 worker: LCD updater: off
20240916 091740 worker: --
20240916 091740 worker: -- Miscellaneous
20240916 091740 worker: --
20240916 091740 worker: Software update: Automatic check off
20240916 091740 worker: Auto-CoverView: off
20240916 091740 worker: CoverView timeout: Never
20240916 091740 worker: Auto-shuffle: off
20240916 091740 worker: Auto-play: off
20240916 091740 worker: Web SSH server: on
20240916 091740 worker: Maintenance task: 360 mins
20240916 091740 worker: Current view: reset to Playback
20240916 091740 worker: Active flags: all false
20240916 091740 worker: Reset flags: skipped
20240916 091740 worker: Session check: ok
20240916 091740 worker: --
20240916 091740 worker: -- Startup complete
20240916 091740 worker: --
20240916 091740 worker: Mount monitor: started
20240916 091740 worker: Radio monitor: off
20240916 091741 worker: Watchdog monitor: started
20240916 091741 worker: Responsiveness: Default
20240916 091741 worker: Ready
20240916 120704 worker: Job mpdcfg
20240916 123923 worker: Job mpdcfg
20240916 124101 worker: Job mpdcfg
20240916 124315 worker: Job mpdcfg
20240916 124723 worker: Job alsa_output_mode
20240916 134254 worker: Job alsa_output_mode
20240916 145741 worker: Job mpdcfg
20240916 145800 watchdog: Error: MPD restarted (check syslog for messages)
20240916 145957 worker: Job mpdcfg
20240916 151156 worker: Job mpdcfg
20240916 151809 worker: Job mpdcfg
20240916 171149 worker: Job mpdcfg
20240916 173019 worker: Job mpdcfg
timestamps changing again at 'alsa card'...dunno what that is but it didnt take 12 hours to boot.
Also still ipv6 dns adress. I havent restarted the router yet (business phone) and this one isnt configured to reconnect ever. I'll reboot everything now and post the results, if I may
RE: 9.0.8 UI slow when running Camilla - Snoil - 09-16-2024
Code: 20240916 200201 worker: --
20240916 200201 worker: -- Start moOde 9 series
20240916 200201 worker: --
20240916 200201 worker: Successfully daemonized
20240916 200201 worker: Wait for Linux startup
20240916 200207 worker: Linux startup complete
20240916 200213 worker: Boot config is ok
20240916 200306 worker: Session loaded
20240916 200309 worker: Package locks applied
20240916 200313 worker: File check complete
20240916 200313 worker: Debug logging off
20240916 200313 worker: --
20240916 200313 worker: -- System
20240916 200313 worker: --
20240916 200316 worker: Host name: moode
20240916 200316 worker: RPi model: Pi-4B 1.1 4GB
20240916 200316 worker: moOde release: 9.0.8 2024-08-21
20240916 200316 worker: RaspiOS: 12.6 Bookworm 64-bit
20240916 200316 worker: Linux Kernel: 6.6.31 64-bit
20240916 200316 worker: MPD version: 0.23.14
20240916 200316 worker: User id: pi
20240916 200316 worker: Home folder: /home/pi
20240916 200316 worker: Time zone: Europe/Berlin
20240916 200316 worker: Kbd layout: de
20240916 200316 worker: HDMI ports(s): on
20240916 200316 worker: HDMI-CEC: off
20240916 200316 worker: Sys LED0: off
20240916 200316 worker: Sys LED1: off
20240916 200316 worker: Reduce power: n/a
20240916 200316 worker: CPU governor: ondemand
20240916 200316 worker: Integ audio: vc4-kms-v3d
20240916 200316 worker: --
20240916 200316 worker: -- Network
20240916 200316 worker: --
20240916 200316 worker: Eth0
20240916 200316 worker: Ethernet: adapter exists
20240916 200316 worker: Ethernet: timeout off
20240916 200316 worker: Ethernet: address not assigned
20240916 200316 worker: Wlan0
20240916 200317 worker: Wireless: adapter exists
20240916 200317 worker: Wireless: country DE
20240916 200317 worker: Wireless: SSID WRKSTT5G
20240916 200317 worker: Wireless: other None
20240916 200317 worker: Wireless: timeout up to 10 secs
20240916 200317 worker: Wireless: connect to WRKSTT5G
20240916 200317 worker: Wireless: method static
20240916 200317 worker: Wireless: address 192.168.2.53
20240916 200317 worker: Wireless: netmask 255.255.255.0
20240916 200317 worker: Wireless: gateway 192.168.2.1
20240916 200317 worker: Wireless: pri DNS fe80::bad5:26ff:fe5b:cf30%wlan0
20240916 200317 worker: Wireless: domain none found
20240916 200317 worker: --
20240916 200317 worker: -- File sharing
20240916 200317 worker: --
20240916 200326 worker: SMB file sharing: on
20240916 200326 worker: NFS file sharing: off
20240916 200326 worker: DLNA file sharing: off
20240916 200326 worker: --
20240916 200326 worker: -- Special configs
20240916 200326 worker: --
20240916 200326 worker: Plexamp: not installed
20240916 200326 worker: RoonBridge: not installed
20240916 200326 worker: Allo Piano 2.1: not detected
20240916 200326 worker: Allo Boss 2: not detected, OLED script ok
20240916 200326 worker: IQaudIO AMP*: not detected
20240916 200326 worker: --
20240916 200326 worker: -- ALSA debug
20240916 200326 worker: --
20240916 200326 worker: Cards: 0:vc4hdmi0 1:vc4hdmi1 2:BossDAC 3:empty
20240916 200326 worker: 4:empty 5:empty 6:empty 7:empty
20240916 200327 worker: Mixers: 0:none 1:none 2:(Digital) 3:none
20240916 200327 worker: 4:none 5:none 6:none 7:none
20240916 200327 worker: --
20240916 200327 worker: -- Audio configuration
20240916 200327 worker: --
20240916 200327 worker: Audio device: 2:Allo Boss DAC
20240916 200327 worker: ALSA card: has not been reassigned
20240916 200327 worker: MPD config: update not needed
20240916 200327 worker: ALSA output: I2S
20240916 200327 worker: ALSA mode: Default (plughw)
20240916 200327 worker: ALSA mixer Digital
20240916 200327 worker: ALSA volume: 100% (0.00dB)
20240916 200327 worker: ALSA maxvol: 100%
20240916 200327 worker: ALSA loopback: off
20240916 200327 worker: MPD mixer CamillaDSP
20240916 200327 worker: Audio formats: S16_LE, S24_LE, S32_LE
20240916 200328 worker: CamillaDSP: WRKST1
20240916 200328 worker: CDSP volume: -7.69dB
20240916 200328 worker: CDSP volrange: 60dB
20240916 200328 worker: --
20240916 200328 worker: -- MPD startup
20240916 200328 worker: --
20240916 200329 worker: MPD service: started
20240916 200329 worker: MPD port 6600: accepting connections
20240916 200329 worker: MPD ALSA Default: on
20240916 200329 worker: MPD ALSA Bluetooth: off
20240916 200329 worker: MPD HTTP Server: off
20240916 200329 worker: MPD volume: 89
20240916 200329 worker: Saved MPD vol: -1
20240916 200329 worker: Saved SRC vol: 0
20240916 200329 worker: MPD crossfade: off
20240916 200329 worker: MPD ignore CUE: no
20240916 200329 worker: MPD CDSP volsync: on
20240916 200329 worker: --
20240916 200329 worker: -- Music sources
20240916 200329 worker: --
20240916 200333 worker: USB drive: MusikUSB (ntfs)
20240916 200333 worker: NVMe drives: none
20240916 200333 worker: NAS sources: none
20240916 200333 worker: --
20240916 200333 worker: -- Feature availability
20240916 200333 worker: --
20240916 200333 worker: Input select: available, Source: MPD, Output: Allo Boss DAC
20240916 200336 worker: Bluetooth: started, PIN: None, ALSA/CDSP maxvol: 100%/0dB, ALSA outmode: Standard
20240916 200336 worker: AirPlay: available
20240916 200336 worker: Spotify Connect: started
20240916 200336 worker: Squeezelite: available
20240916 200337 worker: UPnP client: started
20240916 200337 worker: Plexamp: not installed, ALSA maxvol: 100%
20240916 200337 worker: RoonBridge: not installed
20240916 200337 worker: Multiroom: available
20240916 200337 worker: GPIO buttons: available
20240916 200337 worker: HTTPS mode: available
20240916 200337 worker: Stream recorder: n/a
20240916 200337 worker: --
20240916 200337 worker: -- Peripherals
20240916 200337 worker: --
20240916 200341 worker: Local display: off
20240916 200341 worker: HDMI 4K 60Hz: off
20240916 200341 worker: On-screen kbd: off
20240916 200341 worker: Rotary encoder: off
20240916 200341 worker: USB volume knob: off
20240916 200341 worker: LCD updater: off
20240916 200341 worker: --
20240916 200341 worker: -- Miscellaneous
20240916 200341 worker: --
20240916 200341 worker: Software update: Automatic check off
20240916 200341 worker: Auto-CoverView: off
20240916 200341 worker: CoverView timeout: Never
20240916 200341 worker: Auto-shuffle: off
20240916 200341 worker: Auto-play: on, via playid 9
20240916 200341 worker: Web SSH server: on
20240916 200341 worker: Maintenance task: 360 mins
20240916 200341 worker: Current view: reset to Playback
20240916 200341 worker: Active flags: all false
20240916 200341 worker: Reset flags: skipped
20240916 200341 worker: Session check: ok
20240916 200341 worker: --
20240916 200341 worker: -- Startup complete
20240916 200341 worker: --
20240916 200341 worker: Mount monitor: started
20240916 200341 worker: Radio monitor: off
20240916 200342 worker: Watchdog monitor: started
20240916 200342 worker: Responsiveness: Default
20240916 200342 worker: Ready
ipv6 dns adress remains. it's relayed that way by the router...
RE: 9.0.8 UI slow when running Camilla - Tim Curtis - 09-16-2024
Very odd.
You can try a ping test from Pi to Router to see what the stats look like. A slow network would be indicated by long round trip times, many dropped packets etc.
Also ifconfig and iwconfig commands on the pi show network stats.
RE: 9.0.8 UI slow when running Camilla - Snoil - 09-16-2024
Code: 64 bytes from 192.168.2.1: icmp_seq=2 ttl=64 time=5.96 ms
64 bytes from 192.168.2.1: icmp_seq=3 ttl=64 time=5.90 ms
64 bytes from 192.168.2.1: icmp_seq=4 ttl=64 time=6.97 ms
64 bytes from 192.168.2.1: icmp_seq=5 ttl=64 time=6.04 ms
64 bytes from 192.168.2.1: icmp_seq=6 ttl=64 time=6.12 ms
64 bytes from 192.168.2.1: icmp_seq=7 ttl=64 time=8.70 ms
64 bytes from 192.168.2.1: icmp_seq=8 ttl=64 time=5.98 ms
64 bytes from 192.168.2.1: icmp_seq=9 ttl=64 time=5.98 ms
64 bytes from 192.168.2.1: icmp_seq=10 ttl=64 time=8.10 ms
64 bytes from 192.168.2.1: icmp_seq=11 ttl=64 time=6.10 ms
64 bytes from 192.168.2.1: icmp_seq=12 ttl=64 time=6.16 ms
64 bytes from 192.168.2.1: icmp_seq=13 ttl=64 time=6.23 ms
64 bytes from 192.168.2.1: icmp_seq=14 ttl=64 time=6.05 ms
Code: eth0: flags=4099<UP,BROADCAST,MULTICAST> mtu 1500
ether dc:a6:32:25:19:d3 txqueuelen 1000 (Ethernet)
RX packets 0 bytes 0 (0.0 B)
RX errors 0 dropped 0 overruns 0 frame 0
TX packets 0 bytes 0 (0.0 B)
TX errors 0 dropped 0 overruns 0 carrier 0 collisions 0
lo: flags=73<UP,LOOPBACK,RUNNING> mtu 65536
inet 127.0.0.1 netmask 255.0.0.0
inet6 ::1 prefixlen 128 scopeid 0x10<host>
loop txqueuelen 1000 (Local Loopback)
RX packets 33266 bytes 9483915 (9.0 MiB)
RX errors 0 dropped 0 overruns 0 frame 0
TX packets 33266 bytes 9483915 (9.0 MiB)
TX errors 0 dropped 0 overruns 0 carrier 0 collisions 0
wlan0: flags=4163<UP,BROADCAST,RUNNING,MULTICAST> mtu 1500
inet 192.168.2.53 netmask 255.255.255.0 broadcast 192.168.2.255
inet6 fe80::8201:ba0d:a481:7e17 prefixlen 64 scopeid 0x20<link>
inet6 2003:f4:2704:9700:a6da:14db:c336:c4e6 prefixlen 64 scopeid 0x0<global>
inet6 fde2:8acd:e9d3:0:adad:794e:cf21:c735 prefixlen 64 scopeid 0x0<global>
ether dc:a6:32:25:19:d4 txqueuelen 1000 (Ethernet)
RX packets 4319 bytes 933264 (911.3 KiB)
RX errors 0 dropped 2 overruns 0 frame 0
TX packets 12072 bytes 10408290 (9.9 MiB)
TX errors 0 dropped 0 overruns 0 carrier 0 collisions 0
Code: lo no wireless extensions.
eth0 no wireless extensions.
wlan0 IEEE 802.11 ESSID:"WRKSTT5G"
Mode:Managed Frequency:5.18 GHz Access Point: B8:D5:26:5B:CF:3E
Bit Rate=292.5 Mb/s Tx-Power=31 dBm
Retry short limit:7 RTS thr:off Fragment thr:off
Power Management:off
Link Quality=37/70 Signal level=-73 dBm
Rx invalid nwid:0 Rx invalid crypt:0 Rx invalid frag:0
Tx excessive retries:0 Invalid misc:0 Missed beacon:0
RE: 9.0.8 UI slow when running Camilla - Tim Curtis - 09-16-2024
These stats below from the iwconfig output suggest a weak signal
Code: Link Quality=37/70 Signal level=-73 dBm
IIRC you divide 37 by 70 to link quality as a percentage
37/70 ~ 50% link quality
Signal level (received signal level) is in decibels and higher numbers means weaker signal.
-30 dBm Amazing
Max achievable signal strength. The client can only be a few feet from the AP to achieve this. Not typical or desirable in the real world.
-67 dBm Very Good
Minimum signal strength for applications that require very reliable, timely delivery of data packets.
VoIP/VoWi-Fi, streaming video
-70 dBm Okay
Minimum signal strength for reliable packet delivery.
Email, web
-80 dBm Not Good
Minimum signal strength for basic connectivity. Packet delivery may be unreliable.
-90 dBm Unusable
Approaching or drowning in the noise floor. Any functionality is highly unlikely.
Here's the link that contains the above table
https://www.metageek.com/training/resources/wifi-signal-strength-basics/
RE: 9.0.8 UI slow when running Camilla - Snoil - 09-17-2024
(09-16-2024, 08:27 PM)Tim Curtis Wrote: Code: Link Quality=37/70 Signal level=-73 dBm
IIRC you divide 37 by 70 to link quality as a percentage
37/70 ~ 50% link quality math is stupid.
I didnt consider the connection to be an issue after i saw the speed files are copied at to the attached hdd (let alone considering the ancient router+repeater+rpi we had used previously).
Thanks for the info. I'll put the rpi in front of the acustic panel instead of concealing it behind :\ and check again.
Have a nice day everybody.
Lucas
RE: 9.0.8 UI slow when running Camilla - Snoil - 09-17-2024
removing the panel gave me
Link Quality=53/70 Signal level=-57 dBm
but volume control is still very sluggish. It might have partly improved a tiny bit but it's hard to tell because "waiting time" for volume steps is totally inconsistent.
Now I wonder if a weak signal can still be considered "the culprit"
RE: 9.0.8 UI slow when running Camilla - TheOldPresbyope - 09-17-2024
@Snoil
Generally, not just a weak signal but also the amount of other WiFi traffic can be an issue.
However, your first post said
Quote:I setup 9.0.8 on a Pi-4B 1.1 4GB at a friend's house and after configuring/running Camilladsp moode's UI became a bit slower and changing Volume through Camilla is very very sluggish (although e.g.'DSP load' never exeeds 8%).
Does this mean that when CamillaDSP is *not* enabled, the moOde WebUI responds normally? That would suggest to me that your slowdown isn't due to the quality of the WiFi connection.
Regards,
Kent
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