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USB only boot - Schlauer Det - 06-26-2018 [attachment=104] [attachment=103] @Tim Curtis and @all After experimenting for quite some time, I built a moOde 4.1 system based only on a USB stick using Moode OS Builder Version 2.4 which runs on my Raspberry 3 with the "Official 7" Touch Screen". I configured everything as described in the documentation. It is booting from the USB Stick as expected but then comes to a longer halt at a point as shown in the appended shot: After about 45 seconds the touch screen gets black for about thirty seconds. Then the Moode start screen builds up very slowly. The reactions on touch screen action are also very slow; it sometimes takes ten to twenty seconds for the display to react on touch inputs. When I interact with moode via a web browser everything works as expected, reactions form the screen inputs are immediate. As far as I can see in the mosbuild.log ( appended) file the build went flawless. Since I am not convenient with all that Linux stuff , I need some help to finally get moode running as advertised. Looking forward to help from Tim and probably the moode community Cheers from the Northern Coast Det RE: USB only boot - Tim Curtis - 06-26-2018 Hi Det, I'm not sure what your screen shot is attempting to show but I assume you have LocalUI turned on in System config. I have same config, a Pi3 and a 7" Pi-Touch and the UI starts fast and runs smoothly on it. I'm booting from SDCard and not USB stick so maybe try copying the image to an SDCard and see if that makes a difference. -Tim RE: USB only boot - Schlauer Det - 06-26-2018 (06-26-2018, 12:26 PM)Tim Curtis Wrote: Hi Det, Hi Tim, thanks for the fast reply. You were right, the "LocalUI" switch was set to "ON". I was thinking that this is necessary when using the TouchScreen. After setting it to "OFF" my system hangs at exactly the same point of the boot and start-up procedure as before as shown in the screen shot. Only difference: It now hangs permanently . My intention is NOT to boot from SDCard since I have a lot of bad experiences with these cards and they are not so easy to change when put into a system consisting of Raspi, TouchScreen and the housing for that stuff. Further explanation of my build process: Using the Moode OS Builder Version 2.4, I used the same destination for the system as the initial Raspbian boot was made from. The only difference is that I didn't use a SDCard but a USB Stick. Could you probably give me some more hints where to look for a solution of my problem? In case this is solved, I will stay with moode and donate for its further development. Thanks in advance Det RE: USB only boot - Tim Curtis - 06-26-2018 Hi, My experience with premium SDCards is that they are almost 100% reliable even when undergoing heavy write I-O. Consider that these cards are used in digital cameras to store valuable photos. If there were some sort of reliability issue with the technology causing customers to loose their photos it would all over the net. I use only Sandisk Ultra Class 10 cards and I can recall only 2 bad cards in over 4 years of heavy use :-) https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00M55C0VU/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o01_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1 For your particular issue, my recommendation would be to boot the system from a top quality SDCard and see if the symptoms occur. If they do it would suggest the problem is either in the moOde Build itself or the hardware but not in the boot medium. If the symptoms don't occur it would suggest the problem is the USB boot media. -Tim RE: USB only boot - Schlauer Det - 06-26-2018 (06-26-2018, 03:23 PM)Tim Curtis Wrote: Hi, Tim, thanks again for your patience, fast reply, and recommendations. Maybe I am a bit stubborn, but I really would like to use USB sticks only. What I found out in the meantime:
Now for my questions:
Cheers Det RE: USB only boot - Tim Curtis - 06-26-2018 USB boot is an option but first it should be eliminated as a source of the particular problem your are experiencing and the easiest way to do this is to simply boot the system from an SD Card and see if the symptoms go away. When LocalUI is ON it automatically loads moOde UI into a local instance of Chrome Browser. This all happens during moOde startup and will be reflected in moOde startup log. You can view the log either by opening System info (Menu, Configure, System then menu System info) or via ssh: cat /var/log/moode.log RE: USB only boot - JST1963 - 06-26-2018 Hi moOde fans, RE: USB only boot - Onionhead - 06-26-2018 I had a similar issue, access to sdcard. This solution works well for me. [img=2x2][/img] RE: USB only boot - Schlauer Det - 06-27-2018 (06-26-2018, 04:59 PM)Tim Curtis Wrote: USB boot is an option but first it should be eliminated as a source of the particular problem your are experiencing and the easiest way to do this is to simply boot the system from an SD Card and see if the symptoms go away. Hi Tim, thanks for your suggestions. I switched LocalUI to "ON" and the behavior of the system is as described in my first post. Next step will be to write the img file to a SDCard and check things again. I will report back with the results. Cheers Det RE: USB only boot - Schlauer Det - 06-27-2018 (06-26-2018, 06:11 PM)JST1963 Wrote:Johan,Quote:My intention is NOT to boot from SDCard since I have a lot of bad experiences with these cards and they are not so easy to change when put into a system consisting of Raspi, TouchScreen and the housing for that stuff. thanks for your reply and your suggestions. Some time ago, I had exactly this solution in mind. Due to other reasons I digressed from this path. In the near future, I will test this approach. The extension cable is already ordered. It will probably arrive tomorrow or an Friday. Thanks again Cheers Det |