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Fresh install moOde 8.3.7 - system slow and busy - happymax - 02-10-2024

Hi all,
I've been using moOde since version 6 and now am using the updated version 8.3.7- it's an absolutely fantastic application. 

To carry out an audio test I tried to install a new 64 bit version on an RP 4 using a new SD card identical to the one I normally use and which works (Sandisk Ultra A1 128 GB) but when I connect MoOde it is very slow and after a while it displays a "system busy" message. 

I tried with two different SD cards, a new one, I installed moode using Raspberry pi imager in windows 10 by setting the wifi data or not, I connected with an ethernet cable but nothing to do. 

Please could you give me some advice to solve my problem? 
Thank you so much


RE: Fresh install moOde 8.3.7 - system slow and busy - Tim Curtis - 02-10-2024

The latest Setup guide
https://github.com/moode-player/moode/blob/develop/www/setup.txt


RE: Fresh install moOde 8.3.7 - system slow and busy - happymax - 02-10-2024

(02-10-2024, 04:55 PM)Tim Curtis Wrote: The latest Setup guide
https://github.com/moode-player/moode/blob/develop/www/setup.txt

Thank you Tim for the immediate answer - I read and reread the documentation but I hadn't found the problem that I have now solved!

On the first page of the pi imager settings I did not indicate the password and on the service page I set the authentication with public key instead of using the use password the authentication (first option) - perhaps it can be useful to other users like me who arrive from the first version 8 which I installed using "Balena Etchter".

Furthermore, if I may allow myself to simplify the installation with PI Imager (I use version 1.8.5) on the general page you can immediately enable wifi in moode before installing it on the SD card, avoiding using the ethernet cable or the access point.

Sorry for my msg and thank you again for your constant commitment to improving this wonderful application.
Massimo


RE: Fresh install moOde 8.3.7 - system slow and busy - Nutul - 02-10-2024

TTYTT we already do not know what else should be done in order to have people read the setup guide instead of doing on their own, and then coming over flooding the threads and wasting a couple of days...
You are just one more drop to the vase; and there will be others...


RE: Fresh install moOde 8.3.7 - system slow and busy - happymax - 02-10-2024

Dear Notul,
I don't want to cause controversy but perhaps you didn't read my answer carefully - I read and reread the documentation but nowhere did I read that it was necessary to set the parameters in the Pi Imager app as I wrote in my post so it's possible to make a mistake - also as I wrote I had never used Pi Imager but for version 8 Balena etcher.
I don't expect the documentation to be so detailed and once again I thank Tim for his commitment.
For the rest I just hope that my experience and the information I have indicated in my post can be useful to other users - after all, this is what the forum is for.
Cheers.


RE: Fresh install moOde 8.3.7 - system slow and busy - Nutul - 02-10-2024

(02-10-2024, 07:53 PM)happymax Wrote: Dear Notul,
I don't want to cause controversy but perhaps you didn't read my answer carefully - I read and reread the documentation but nowhere did I read that it was necessary to set the parameters in the Pi Imager app as I wrote in my post so it's possible to make a mistake - also as I wrote I had never used Pi Imager but for version 8 Balena etcher.
I don't expect the documentation to be so detailed and once again I thank Tim for his commitment.
For the rest I just hope that my experience and the information I have indicated in my post can be useful to other users - after all, this is what the forum is for.
Cheers.

Please... from the downloading section at moodeaudio.org

Quote:Download moOde

Read the Setup guide for information on how to use the Raspberry Pi Imager to prepare the ISO image with SSH, a login userid/password and optional WiFi SSID/password before writing the image to the boot media.

and the first 30something lines of such guide:

Quote:################################################################################
#
#  Setup Guide for moOde audio player
#
#  Updated: 2024-02-10
#  © Tim Curtis 2017 http://moodeaudio.org
#
################################################################################

GENERAL INFORMATION

Access moOde using a Browser and one of the URL's below. After opening moOde
in the Browser use the IOS or Android "Save to Home Screen" option to create a
moOde App on your home screen. There is no need to download anything.
http://moode, http://moode.local or http://IP_ADDRESS

OPERATING ISTRUCTIONS

Instructions for configuring and operating moOde are contained in Quick help
which is located on the "m" menu and at the link below.
https://github.com/moode-player/docs/blob/main/Quickhelp.pdf

MOODE OS IMAGE

For improved security the OS image does not contain a userid, WiFi SSID or
Access Point password, and Secure Shell (SSH) access is disabled.

  1. REQUIRED: The official Raspberry Pi Imager is required to enable SSH,
  create a userid and password and optionally set the host name and WiFi SSID
  and password. If a host name is not set in the Imager then the default
  host name "moode" will be used.

  2. REQUIRED: Userid, password and SSH are required otherwise moOde will not
  function correctly.

  3. REQUIRED: An Access Point password is required and is set after first boot
  in the Network Configuration screen. This allows moOde to still be accessable
  if it cannot connect to Ethernet or any configrred WiFi SSID's.


Nothing personal, of course.


RE: Fresh install moOde 8.3.7 - system slow and busy - Tim Curtis - 02-10-2024

(02-10-2024, 05:18 PM)happymax Wrote:
(02-10-2024, 04:55 PM)Tim Curtis Wrote: The latest Setup guide
https://github.com/moode-player/moode/blob/develop/www/setup.txt

Thank you Tim for the immediate answer - I read and reread the documentation but I hadn't found the problem that I have now solved!

On the first page of the pi imager settings I did not indicate the password and on the service page I set the authentication with public key instead of using the use password the authentication (first option) - perhaps it can be useful to other users like me who arrive from the first version 8 which I installed using "Balena Etchter".

Furthermore, if I may allow myself to simplify the installation with PI Imager (I use version 1.8.5) on the general page you can immediately enable wifi in moode before installing it on the SD card, avoiding using the ethernet cable or the access point.

Sorry for my msg and thank you again for your constant commitment to improving this wonderful application.
Massimo

I've been using Imager 1.8.4 but will check out 1.8.5 today. I'll update the Setup guide to mention using password auth for SSH.


RE: Fresh install moOde 8.3.7 - system slow and busy - Tim Curtis - 02-10-2024

Setup guide updates committed. See number 2 under MOODE OS section.
https://github.com/moode-player/moode/blob/develop/www/setup.txt


RE: Fresh install moOde 8.3.7 - system slow and busy - TheOldPresbyope - 02-10-2024

Adding the note will do no harm but the important thing here is that Imager has to be set to enable SSH in the flashed image. 

Either password authentication or public key authentication work fine. HOWEVER I'm bewildered why someone would choose the latter if they don't understand what it means and how it works. Balena Etcher has no facility for setting any of this so it's not like there's learned behavior to unlearn.

In my case, just flashed a fresh Bookworm Lite with "public key authentication only" selected. This in Imager 1.8.5 on my Linux Mint laptop. Once "Run SSH-KEYGEN" completed for the first time it wrote the appropriate keys for user "pi" (I kept the traditional username) into the Bookworm image AND ALSO into the .ssh keystore in my account on the laptop. Booted the image on a RPi4B. Now I can ssh to it as user pi from my  account on my laptop without entering a password. Just as advertised. Repeated the exercise using moOde 8.3.7 instead of vanilla Bookworm Lite. Again, success.

Of course, once this is enabled the idea of setting a new password in moOde is useless.

Just my two cents worth.

Regards,
Kent


RE: Fresh install moOde 8.3.7 - system slow and busy - Tim Curtis - 02-10-2024

(02-10-2024, 10:15 PM)TheOldPresbyope Wrote: Adding the note will do no harm but the important thing here is that Imager has to be set to enable SSH in the flashed image. 

Either password authentication or public key authentication work fine. HOWEVER I'm bewildered why someone would choose the latter if they don't understand what it means and how it works. Balena Etcher has no facility for setting any of this so it's not like there's learned behavior to unlearn.

In my case, just flashed a fresh Bookworm Lite with "public key authentication only" selected. This in Imager 1.8.5 on my Linux Mint laptop. Once "Run SSH-KEYGEN" completed for the first time it wrote the appropriate keys for user "pi" (I kept the traditional username) into the Bookworm image AND ALSO into the .ssh keystore in my account on the laptop. Booted the image on a RPi4B. Now I can ssh to it as user pi from my  account on my laptop without entering a password. Just as advertised. Repeated the exercise using moOde 8.3.7 instead of vanilla Bookworm Lite. Again, success.

Of course, once this is enabled the idea of setting a new password in moOde is useless.

Just my two cents worth.

Regards,
Kent

Good points.