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3B+ & 7" Touch screen, with Moode 9.1.4. - suzywong - 10-29-2024

This was working fine with Moode 9.1.3, but following the update.......

PC screen looks like this:
[attachment=4116]
And my iOS tablet screen is the same.

But the Touch screen on the RPi looks like this:
[attachment=4117]
And it is frozen. I have tried restarting the display from the Peripherals screen (on the PC), and turning the Local Display Off & ON again.

Anybody got any ideas for things to try?

Sorry for the rubbish second pic but you can get the idea.

Also it could be helpful is it could be confirmed that 9.1.4 does actually play nicely with the Touch screen.

RE: 3B+ & 7" Touch screen, with Moode 9.1.4. - Tim Curtis - 10-29-2024

Does the update log show a successful completion?

Code:
moodeutl --updlog


RE: 3B+ & 7" Touch screen, with Moode 9.1.4. - suzywong - 10-29-2024

(10-29-2024, 08:52 PM)Tim Curtis Wrote: Does the update log show a successful completion?

Code:
moodeutl --updlog
Looks like it, it got all the way through to “Update installed, restart needed”

I even power cycled for a cold reboot.

RE: 3B+ & 7" Touch screen, with Moode 9.1.4. - Iacov - 10-30-2024

(10-29-2024, 06:31 PM)suzywong Wrote: This was working fine with Moode 9.1.3, but following the update.......

PC screen looks like this:

And my iOS tablet screen is the same.

But the Touch screen on the RPi looks like this:

And it is frozen. I have tried restarting the display from the Peripherals screen (on the PC), and turning the Local Display Off & ON again.

Anybody got any ideas for things to try?

Sorry for the rubbish second pic but you can get the idea.

Also it could be helpful is it could be confirmed that 9.1.4 does actually play nicely with the Touch screen.

i have the same issue on a pi3b+ and official touchscreen

RE: 3B+ & 7" Touch screen, with Moode 9.1.4. - TamedShrew - 10-30-2024

(10-30-2024, 07:32 AM)Iacov Wrote:
(10-29-2024, 06:31 PM)suzywong Wrote: Also it could be helpful is it could be confirmed that 9.1.4 does actually play nicely with the Touch screen.

i have the same issue on a pi3b+ and official touchscreen

Since the latest update my touchscreen freezes when it starts up. I get the browser "Page Unresponsive" message serveral times, but in the end it settles down and works ok.

RE: 3B+ & 7" Touch screen, with Moode 9.1.4. - Tim Curtis - 10-30-2024

(10-29-2024, 09:42 PM)suzywong Wrote:
(10-29-2024, 08:52 PM)Tim Curtis Wrote: Does the update log show a successful completion?

Code:
moodeutl --updlog
Looks like it, it got all the way through to “Update installed, restart needed”

I even power cycled for a cold reboot.

Most likely a stale chromium browser cache. Try restarting Local display from Peripheral Config. This will clear the cache.

But just as an FYI the changes in the videocore driver introduced with Bookworm heavily favor the video chip hardware and HDMI interface on the pi4 and pi5. This is because one of their goals is to have a first-class Desktop.

For me a Pi3 and 7" Touch is almost unusable as compared to a 10" HDMI touch with a pi4 which is very good.

There are some hacks in moode for dealing with some platform audio and video issues for example "Disable GPU" and "Firmware mode (Legacy)" but these are just best effort.

RE: 3B+ & 7" Touch screen, with Moode 9.1.4. - Iacov - 10-30-2024

(10-30-2024, 12:46 PM)Tim Curtis Wrote:
(10-29-2024, 09:42 PM)suzywong Wrote:
(10-29-2024, 08:52 PM)Tim Curtis Wrote: Does the update log show a successful completion?

Code:
moodeutl --updlog
Looks like it, it got all the way through to “Update installed, restart needed”

I even power cycled for a cold reboot.

Most likely a stale chromium browser cache. Try restarting Local display from Peripheral Config. This will clear the cache.

But just as an FYI the changes in the videocore driver introduced with Bookworm heavily favor the video chip hardware and HDMI interface on the pi4 and pi5. This is because one of their goals is to have a first-class Desktop.

For me a Pi3 and 7" Touch is almost unusable as compared to a 10" HDMI touch with a pi4 which is very good.

There are some hacks in moode for dealing with some platform audio and video issues for example "Disable GPU" and "Firmware mode (Legacy)" but these are just best effort.

what touch display/case would you recommend for a pi4/5?
would the official 7" display work well too?

is "disable GPU" relevant if using the offices display?

RE: 3B+ & 7" Touch screen, with Moode 9.1.4. - Tim Curtis - 10-30-2024

I use a WIMAXIT "10.1 inch touch display for Raspberry"
https://wimaxit.com/?ref=tjobjjgb&gad_source=1&gbraid=0AAAAABeXflpqhHjXN3mmNwpij8XPjLPZR&gclid=EAIaIQobChMI8PuEnJ22iQMVIi2tBh0M_Dm4EAAYAiAAEgKBSfD_BwE

Here is the help for the "Disable GPU" hack.
Disable the GPU for Chromium if the WebUI knob sliders on Pi-2 or Pi-3 are missing or there are any other display artifacts.

RE: 3B+ & 7" Touch screen, with Moode 9.1.4. - Iacov - 10-30-2024

what i have witnessed so far:
when switching between different views (eg radio and album view) it takes a lot of time, before the 7" display a) displays all the covers and b) can be interacted with
when monitoring (moodeutl -m) i can see that the cpu utilization is at 30-35% until something gets loaded, the utilization drops and the display can be itneracted with
it works faster when switching to radio and takes a very long time when switching to album view

was i tried and didn't work:
- restart local display
- rebooting
- rebuilding the database
- updating/upgrading via apt update/upgrade
- deactivating GPU

edit: i attached an image from htop...does this help?

RE: 3B+ & 7" Touch screen, with Moode 9.1.4. - suzywong - 10-30-2024

…….Most likely a stale chromium browser cache. Try restarting Local display from Peripheral Config. This will clear the cache.

I did.

It did’nt resolve the issue.


……For me a Pi3 and 7" Touch is almost unusable

Yes, so i have just discovered….


Fortunately, I have copies of the older Moode images……many of which actually work!