JB Radio2

[suzywong]

I quite like this Toronto based iRadio (plays a lot of "Dad Music"), and have Moode 7.5 set up for the AAC stream:

https://maggie.torontocast.com:8076/aac which runs nicely at 16/44.1 (320kbps)

I'd heard mention of a FLAC stream on the Naim forum, so, merely on spec., I went looking for it, and found:

https://maggie.torontocast.com:8076/flac which comes up with a 16/48 stream.

So far so good, but curiously, at the end of the current track, it goes all quiet...
unless I click on the playlist entry, when it comes back to life, for another track...at the end of which, all goes quiet, until...
GOTO previous line

Anyone got any idea why this should be?

[philrandal]

I quite like this Toronto based iRadio (plays a lot of "Dad Music"), and have Moode 7.5 set up for the AAC stream:

https://maggie.torontocast.com:8076/aac which runs nicely at 16/44.1 (320kbps)

I'd heard mention of a FLAC stream on the Naim forum, so, merely on spec., I went looking for it, and found:

https://maggie.torontocast.com:8076/flac which comes up with a 16/48 stream.

So far so good, but curiously, at the end of the current track, it goes all quiet...
unless I click on the playlist entry, when it comes back to life, for another track...at the end of which, all goes quiet, until...
GOTO previous line

Anyone got any idea why this should be?

No idea, unless it is something to do with embedded track metadata.

The sound quality of their 320K stream is one of the best I have heard.  I would love to know what they do differently under the hood.

Phil

[TheOldPresbyope]

Curious.

This happens when I play the FLAC stream in moOde 7.6 but not in VLC on a laptop. In VLC it progresses from song to song just as it does in AAC. 

Maybe it's an issue with the ICY data interspersed with the audio stream or maybe they close and reopen the stream with each song or ....?

The JB Radio website admits to only two endpoints:  .../mp3 and .../aac

This leads me to believe they are still experimenting with their flac encoder.

Here's the header returned if one 'curls' the FLAC stream

Code:

HTTP/1.0 200 OK
Server: Icecast 2.4.4
Connection: Close
Date: Tue, 23 Nov 2021 18:20:22 GMT
Content-Type: application/ogg
Cache-Control: no-cache, no-store
Expires: Mon, 26 Jul 1997 05:00:00 GMT
Pragma: no-cache
Access-Control-Allow-Origin: *
icy-description:Commercial-Free Web Radio
icy-genre:Eclectic,Rock,Blues
icy-name:JB Radio
icy-pub:1
icy-url:https://jb-radio.net

compared to the header for the AAC stream

Code:

HTTP/1.0 200 OK
Server: Icecast 2.4.4
Connection: Close
Date: Tue, 23 Nov 2021 18:22:09 GMT
Content-Type: audio/aacp
Cache-Control: no-cache, no-store
Expires: Mon, 26 Jul 1997 05:00:00 GMT
Pragma: no-cache
Access-Control-Allow-Origin: *
icy-br:320
ice-audio-info: ice-samplerate=44100;ice-bitrate=320;ice-channels=2
icy-br:320
icy-description:Commercial-Free Web Radio
icy-genre:Eclectic,Rock,Blues
icy-name:JB RADIO
icy-pub:1
icy-url:https://jb-radio.net

Note how minimal the FLAC header is by comparison. Somebody's not taking this seriously.

Regards,
Kent

[MikeyFresh]

I quite like this Toronto based iRadio (plays a lot of "Dad Music"), and have Moode 7.5 set up for the AAC stream:

https://maggie.torontocast.com:8076/aac which runs nicely at 16/44.1 (320kbps)

I'd heard mention of a FLAC stream on the Naim forum, so, merely on spec., I went looking for it, and found:

https://maggie.torontocast.com:8076/flac which comes up with a 16/48 stream.

So far so good, but curiously, at the end of the current track, it goes all quiet...
unless I click on the playlist entry, when it comes back to life, for another track...at the end of which, all goes quiet, until...
GOTO previous line

Anyone got any idea why this should be?

I don't know why that happens but there are at least a couple of others that do the exact same thing:

440Hz Radio (Germany)
http://stream.440hz-radio.de:8080/440hz.flac.ogg

Le Son Unique (France)
http://diffusion.lafrap.fr:8000/sun.flac

[philrandal]

I quite like this Toronto based iRadio (plays a lot of "Dad Music"), and have Moode 7.5 set up for the AAC stream:

https://maggie.torontocast.com:8076/aac which runs nicely at 16/44.1 (320kbps)

I'd heard mention of a FLAC stream on the Naim forum, so, merely on spec., I went looking for it, and found:

https://maggie.torontocast.com:8076/flac which comes up with a 16/48 stream.

So far so good, but curiously, at the end of the current track, it goes all quiet...
unless I click on the playlist entry, when it comes back to life, for another track...at the end of which, all goes quiet, until...
GOTO previous line

Anyone got any idea why this should be?

I don't know why that happens but there are at least a couple of others that do the exact same thing:

440Hz Radio (Germany)
http://stream.440hz-radio.de:8080/440hz.flac.ogg

Le Son Unique (France)
http://diffusion.lafrap.fr:8000/sun.flac

I suspect that it's the issue described hete:

http://lists.xiph.org/pipermail/icecast/...14768.html

Phil

[TheOldPresbyope]

Nice find. Looks like @philrandal nailed it considering this final sentence in the xiph.org post:

Also, some buggy clients consider a change of metadata in an Ogg
stream (which is usually accompanied by a change in stream serial
number) as being the end of streaming, and will stop playback on a
metadata change.

Here 'buggy client' would mean MPD and its plugins since that's where radio streams are decoded in moOde.

Regards,
Kent

[suzywong]

Not much that MoOde can do then.

But it's comforting to know that "it's not just me doing something stupid"!