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RE: moOde as UPnP renderer - biomoode - 10-28-2019

(10-28-2019, 07:58 PM)Tim Curtis Wrote: Try turning off Squeezelite and UPnP renderers and then verify that the Stereo Test file or a Radio station plays.

Will do that! Report back later.


RE: moOde as UPnP renderer - TheOldPresbyope - 10-28-2019

Yeah, now that I know the Squeezelite renderer is enabled I'm not surprised to hear you can't play back through the UPnP renderer. I would have thought the splash screen ("Squeezelite active/turn off") would be a heads up.

With my USB DAC selected, I can easily repro the "device or resource busy" message by enabling both renderers and trying to play a track via BubbleUPnP to the UPnP renderer.

Regards,
Kent


RE: moOde as UPnP renderer - biomoode - 10-29-2019

(10-28-2019, 11:27 PM)TheOldPresbyope Wrote: Yeah, now that I know the Squeezelite renderer is enabled I'm not surprised to hear you can't play back through the UPnP renderer. I would have thought the splash screen ("Squeezelite active/turn off") would be a heads up.

With my USB DAC selected, I can easily repro the "device or resource busy" message by enabling both renderers and trying to play a track via BubbleUPnP to the UPnP renderer.

Regards,
Kent

Too stupid of me not switching off Squeezelite renderer. I had it switched on because I tried Roon to use Squeezelite with moOde.
Having it on even disabled playing files directly with moOde!
I should‘ve noticed myself!!!

Regards, Paul


RE: moOde as UPnP renderer - biomoode - 10-29-2019

Switched off Squeezelite renderer and all OK now. Works perfectly well with Audirvana 3.5.24.

Thanks for all the input!

Best regards,

Paul


RE: moOde as UPnP renderer - vinnn - 10-29-2019

OP, have you not tried installing Roon Bridge on your Moode installation? Its pretty straight forward and makes your Pi running Moode into a Roon endpoint. No need for man-in-the-middle solutions...

https://kb.roonlabs.com/LinuxInstall


RE: moOde as UPnP renderer - biomoode - 10-30-2019

(10-29-2019, 10:03 AM)vinnn Wrote: OP, have you not tried installing Roon Bridge on your Moode installation? Its pretty straight forward and makes your Pi running  Moode into a Roon endpoint. No need for man-in-the-middle solutions...

https://kb.roonlabs.com/LinuxInstall

Can you elaborate a bit on this? Would that mean that you have moOde and Roon Bridge on the same Micro SD Card? And how would this be installed?


RE: moOde as UPnP renderer - vinnn - 11-01-2019

(10-30-2019, 11:06 PM),biomoode Wrote:
(10-29-2019, 10:03 AM)vinnn Wrote: OP, have you not tried installing Roon Bridge on your Moode installation? Its pretty straight forward and makes your Pi running  Moode into a Roon endpoint. No need for man-in-the-middle solutions...

https://kb.roonlabs.com/LinuxInstall

Can you elaborate a bit on this? Would that mean that you have moOde and Roon Bridge on the same Micro SD Card? And how would this be installed?

Moode is essentially a Linux distribution based on Raspbian running the mpd service with Moode's own web-based interface/application, you can still install other software on it like most computer operating systems.

Roon Bridge is available for Linux on armv7hf (the architecture that Raspberry Pi is based on), ssh into your Pi and download & run the Roon Bridge armv7hf easy install script as shown on the link I posted.

Installing this should make your Raspberry Pi (running Moode) a Roon endpoint, I'm not a Roon user but again, all is explained if you read the Roon knowledge base page I linked to regarding Roon on Linux.


RE: moOde as UPnP renderer - TheOldPresbyope - 11-01-2019

I'm not a Roon user either but isn't it likely the Roon Bridge and moOde would get into contention over the ALSA subsystem. Quoted from https://kb.roonlabs.com/Audio_On_Linux

Quote:Roon uses ALSA to speak to audio devices on Linux. We only support situations where we have direct and exclusive access to the hardware (in ALSA terms, we are using hw:X,X device identifiers).

Regards,
Kent


RE: moOde as UPnP renderer - vinnn - 11-01-2019

(11-01-2019, 03:24 PM)TheOldPresbyope Wrote: I'm not a Roon user either but isn't it likely the Roon Bridge and moOde would get into contention over the ALSA subsystem. Quoted from https://kb.roonlabs.com/Audio_On_Linux

Quote:Roon uses ALSA to speak to audio devices on Linux. We only support situations where we have direct and exclusive access to the hardware (in ALSA terms, we are using hw:X,X device identifiers).

Regards,
Kent

Probably but woulldn't this just mean that that one couldn't play audio on Roon Bridge and mpd at the same time? Which is something that should be expected anyway. I guess you could play something with Moode then that would be interrrupted if you hit play on Roon and vice-versa.

I've seen discussions with people successfully doing the same on Volumio so Moode shouldn't be much different, maybe OP should try and let us know.


RE: moOde as UPnP renderer - TheOldPresbyope - 11-01-2019

I was just wondering if Roon Bridge futzes with the ALSA configuration rather than using the configuration established by moOde. I guess you can just try it and see.