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problem Moode 9.3.2 wiyh DSD - Sucama - 04-27-2025

Hi everyone, I've been updating from 8.3.9 to 9.2.6 of Mood Player Audio without any problems. The latest update, to 9.3.2, was done with a clean copy on another card (9.3.2). I'm noticing lags or gaps in the audio on tracks that play perfectly in version 9.2.6, both in DSD 64, 128, and 256, as well as in PCM 24b 192kHz.
The Raspberry Pi is a 4 with 8GB RAM, and the DAC is a Top-Notch D50s. tested in 2 different cards Sandisk extreme pro 64gb and 32 gb
Thanks!
Mario

RE: problem Moode 9.3.2 wiyh DSD - Tim Curtis - 04-27-2025

Very odd.

Reboot and then post the entire contents of the startup log.

The log can be viewed via the SSH command moodeutl -l or downloaded via the Logs section in System Config, or via Menu, System info from any of the Config screens. The startup log will be at the end of System info output.

RE: problem Moode 9.3.2 wiyh DSD - Sucama - 04-28-2025

(04-27-2025, 11:23 PM)Tim Curtis Wrote: Very odd.

Reboot and then post the entire contents of the startup log.

The log can be viewed via the SSH command moodeutl -l or downloaded via the Logs section in System Config, or via Menu, System info from  any of the Config screens. The startup log will be at the end of System info output.

Hi , Tim, thanks for your soon response.
Here it is:

Code:
20250427 191456 worker: --
20250427 191457 worker: -- Start moOde 9 series
20250427 191457 worker: --
20250427 191457 worker: Daemonize:     complete
20250427 191457 worker: Linux startup: complete
20250427 191457 worker: Boot config:   ok
20250427 191457 worker: Boot folder:   ok
20250427 191457 worker: Radio table:   ok
20250427 191458 worker: PHP session:   cleaned
20250427 191458 worker: PHP session:   loaded
20250427 191500 worker: Package locks: applied
20250427 191501 worker: File check:    complete
20250427 191501 worker: Log to RAM:    on
20250427 191501 worker: Tmp to RAM:    on
20250427 191501 worker: Debug logging: off
20250427 191501 worker: --
20250427 191501 worker: -- System
20250427 191501 worker: --
20250427 191502 worker: Host name:     moode
20250427 191502 worker: RPi model:     Pi-4B 1.4 8GB
20250427 191502 worker: moOde release: 9.3.2 2025-04-16
20250427 191502 worker: RaspiOS:       12.10 Bookworm 64-bit
20250427 191502 worker: Linux Kernel:  6.12.20 64-bit
20250427 191502 worker: MPD version:   0.24.3
20250427 191502 worker: User id:       pi
20250427 191502 worker: Home folder:   /home/pi
20250427 191502 worker: Time zone:     America/Detroit
20250427 191502 worker: Kbd layout:    es
20250427 191502 worker: HDMI ports(s): on
20250427 191502 worker: HDMI-CEC:      off
20250427 191502 worker: Sys LED0:      on
20250427 191502 worker: Sys LED1:      on
20250427 191502 worker: Reduce power:  n/a
20250427 191502 worker: Fan control:   n/a
20250427 191502 worker: CPU governor:  ondemand
20250427 191502 worker: --
20250427 191502 worker: -- Network
20250427 191502 worker: --
20250427 191502 worker: Eth0
20250427 191502 worker: Ethernet: adapter exists
20250427 191502 worker: Ethernet: timeout up to 90 secs
20250427 191502 worker: Ethernet: method  static
20250427 191502 worker: Ethernet: address 192.168.0.16
20250427 191502 worker: Ethernet: netmask 255.255.255.255
20250427 191502 worker: Ethernet: gateway 192.168.0.1
20250427 191502 worker: Ethernet: pri DNS 200.42.4.203
20250427 191502 worker: Ethernet: domain  none found
20250427 191502 worker: Wlan0
20250427 191502 worker: Wireless: adapter does not exist
20250427 191502 worker: mDNS
20250427 191502 worker: Discover: IPv4 and IPv6
20250427 191502 worker: --
20250427 191502 worker: -- File sharing
20250427 191502 worker: --
20250427 191503 worker: SMB file sharing:  on
20250427 191503 worker: SMB password:      none
20250427 191503 worker: NFS file sharing:  on
20250427 191503 worker: DLNA file sharing: off
20250427 191503 worker: --
20250427 191503 worker: -- Special configs
20250427 191503 worker: --
20250427 191503 worker: Plexamp:          not installed
20250427 191503 worker: RoonBridge:       not installed
20250427 191503 worker: Allo Boss 2:      not detected, OLED script ok
20250427 191503 worker: Allo Piano 2.1:   not detected
20250427 191503 worker: IQaudIO DigiAMP+: not detected
20250427 191503 worker: RPi DigiAMP+:     not detected
20250427 191503 worker: Bluetooth:        session vars ok
20250427 191503 worker: --
20250427 191503 worker: -- ALSA debug
20250427 191503 worker: --
20250427 191503 worker: Cards:  0:vc4hdmi0        1:vc4hdmi1        2:D50s            3:empty          
20250427 191503 worker:         4:empty           5:empty           6:empty           7:empty          
20250427 191504 worker: Mixers: 0:none            1:none            2:(D50s )         3:none            
20250427 191504 worker:         4:none            5:none            6:none            7:none            
20250427 191504 worker: --
20250427 191504 worker: -- Audio configuration
20250427 191504 worker: --
20250427 191504 worker: Audio device:  2:D50s
20250427 191504 worker: ALSA card:     has not been reassigned
20250427 191504 worker: MPD config:    update not needed
20250427 191504 worker: ALSA output:   USB
20250427 191504 worker: ALSA mode:     Direct (hw)
20250427 191504 worker: ALSA mixer:    D50s
20250427 191504 worker: ALSA volume:   100% (0.00dB)
20250427 191504 worker: ALSA maxvol:   100%
20250427 191504 worker: ALSA loopback: off
20250427 191504 worker: MPD mixer      Hardware
20250427 191504 worker: Integ audio:   vc4-kms-v3d
20250427 191504 worker: Audio formats: S32_LE, SPECIAL, DSD_U32_BE
20250427 191504 worker: CamillaDSP:    off
20250427 191504 worker: CDSP volume:   0dB
20250427 191504 worker: CDSP volrange: 60dB
20250427 191504 worker: --
20250427 191504 worker: -- MPD startup
20250427 191504 worker: --
20250427 191505 worker: MPD service:        started
20250427 191505 worker: MPD port 6600:      accepting connections
20250427 191505 worker: MPD ALSA Default:   on
20250427 191505 worker: MPD ALSA Bluetooth: off
20250427 191505 worker: MPD HTTP Server:    off
20250427 191505 worker: MPD volume:         100
20250427 191505 worker: Saved MPD vol:      -1
20250427 191505 worker: Saved SRC vol:      0
20250427 191505 worker: MPD crossfade:      off
20250427 191505 worker: MPD ignore CUE:     no
20250427 191505 worker: MPD CDSP volsync:   off
20250427 191505 worker: --
20250427 191505 worker: -- Music sources
20250427 191505 worker: --
20250427 191505 worker: USB drive:      16CE2FB6CE2F8D55 (ntfs)
20250427 191505 worker: NVMe drives:    none
20250427 191505 worker: SATA drives:    none
20250427 191505 worker: NAS source:     GuinMusic (smb)
20250427 191505 worker: NAS source:     Ubntu-music (smb)
20250427 191518 worker: --
20250427 191518 worker: -- Feature availability
20250427 191518 worker: --
20250427 191518 worker: Input select:    available, Source: MPD, Output: D50s
20250427 191518 worker: Bluetooth:       available, PIN: None, ALSA/CDSP maxvol: 100%/0dB, ALSA outmode: Standard
20250427 191518 worker: AirPlay:         available
20250427 191518 worker: Spotify Connect: started
20250427 191518 worker: Deezer Connect:  available
20250427 191518 worker: Squeezelite:     available
20250427 191518 worker: UPnP client:     started
20250427 191518 worker: Plexamp:         not installed, ALSA maxvol: 100%
20250427 191518 worker: RoonBridge:      not installed
20250427 191518 worker: Multiroom:       available
20250427 191518 worker: GPIO buttons:    available
20250427 191518 worker: Stream recorder: n/a
20250427 191518 worker: --
20250427 191518 worker: -- Security
20250427 191518 worker: --
20250427 191518 worker: Web SSH server:    on
20250427 191518 worker: XSS detection:     off
20250427 191518 worker: HTTPS mode:        available
20250427 191518 worker: --
20250427 191518 worker: -- Peripherals
20250427 191518 worker: --
20250427 191519 worker: Local display:   off
20250427 191519 worker: Chromium ver:    126.0.6478.164-rpt1
20250427 191519 worker: Chromium cfg:    WARNING: directory /home/pi/.config does not exist
20250427 191519 worker: Screen blank     600
20250427 191519 worker: On-screen kbd:   off
20250427 191519 worker: Disable GPU:     off
20250427 191519 worker: HDMI orient:     landscape
20250427 191519 worker: HDMI 4K 60Hz:    off
20250427 191519 worker: DSI scn type:    none
20250427 191519 worker: DSI port:        1
20250427 191519 worker: DSI brightness:  255
20250427 191519 worker: DSI rotate:      0
20250427 191519 worker: Rotary encoder:  off
20250427 191519 worker: Triggerhappy:    off
20250427 191519 worker: LCD updater:     off
20250427 191519 worker: --
20250427 191519 worker: -- Miscellaneous
20250427 191519 worker: --
20250427 191519 worker: Software update:   Automatic check off
20250427 191519 worker: Auto-CoverView:    off
20250427 191519 worker: CoverView timeout: Never
20250427 191519 worker: Auto-shuffle:      off
20250427 191519 worker: Auto-play:         off
20250427 191519 worker: Maintenance task:  360 mins
20250427 191519 worker: Current view:      reset to Playback
20250427 191519 worker: Active flags:      all false
20250427 191519 worker: Reset flags:       skipped
20250427 191519 worker: Session check:     ok
20250427 191519 worker: --
20250427 191519 worker: -- Startup complete
20250427 191519 worker: --
20250427 191519 worker: Mount monitor:    off
20250427 191519 worker: Radio monitor:    off
20250427 191519 worker: Watchdog monitor: started
20250427 191519 worker: Responsiveness:   Default
20250427 191519 worker: Ready
20250427 195020 coverart: Error: DSD bitstream does not contain any ID3v2 tag: /var/lib/mpd/music/NAS/Ubntu-music/Varios/DSD 256/2L-056_04_stereo_DSD256.dsf


RE: problem Moode 9.3.2 wiyh DSD - Tim Curtis - 04-28-2025

I don't see anything suspicious in the log related to audio.

What kind of network are you using that has DNS on a separate subnet?

20250427 191502 worker: Ethernet: method static
20250427 191502 worker: Ethernet: address 192.168.0.16
20250427 191502 worker: Ethernet: netmask 255.255.255.255
20250427 191502 worker: Ethernet: gateway 192.168.0.1
20250427 191502 worker: Ethernet: pri DNS 200.42.4.203

Are you playing the tracks directly using moode WebUI or are you playing them from some UPnP client?

RE: problem Moode 9.3.2 wiyh DSD - Sucama - 04-28-2025

(04-28-2025, 01:13 AM)Tim Curtis Wrote: I don't see anything suspicious in the log related to audio.

What kind of network are you using that has DNS on a separate subnet?

20250427 191502 worker: Ethernet: method  static
20250427 191502 worker: Ethernet: address 192.168.0.16
20250427 191502 worker: Ethernet: netmask 255.255.255.255
20250427 191502 worker: Ethernet: gateway 192.168.0.1
20250427 191502 worker: Ethernet: pri DNS 200.42.4.203

Are you playing the tracks directly using moode WebUI or are you playing them from some UPnP client?

Hi, Tim, both things.

RE: problem Moode 9.3.2 wiyh DSD - Sucama - 04-28-2025

After several tests, there is definitely a problem with version 9.3.2 on my computer. I'm going back to version 9.2.6, which doesn't have these issues and works with high-resolution files (DSD 256, 128, PCM 24-192 kHz).
Thanks !

RE: problem Moode 9.3.2 wiyh DSD - Tim Curtis - 04-28-2025

I ran some tests with DSD64/128/256 and 24/192 tracks and no issues whatsoever. The DAC is an Allo Revolution. The DSD tracks are DSF format and were played native DSD bitstream.

Maybe someone with a D50s can reproduce your issue and provide some insights as to what might be going on.

RE: problem Moode 9.3.2 wiyh DSD - Always_In_The_Moode - 04-29-2025

Hey

I have a Topping D50s too and noticed some strange glitching on a DSD track on this version which wasn't present before. This is connected to a Raspberry Pi 4b with 2GB RAM.

I will try to reproduce this.

Presumbly you'd want to see the MPD log file, but let me know if there's any other data that would be helpful.

RE: problem Moode 9.3.2 wiyh DSD - Tim Curtis - 04-29-2025

If you are able to repro then zip up the DSF file and PM myself, @TheOldPresbyope and @Nutul a download link so we can see if the issue occurs on our systems.

RE: problem Moode 9.3.2 wiyh DSD - TheOldPresbyope - 04-29-2025

I have two DACs capable of native DSD: a Khadas Tone1 DAC (USB interface) and an Inno-maker DAC Pro (HAT).

I don't routinely play DSD tracks but I'll go back and check with the test tracks I have in my possession using a moOde 9.3.2 player. I'm guessing I'll have the same negative results you (Tim) had but I won't pre-judge.

The OP said "I'm noticing lags or gaps in the audio on tracks that play perfectly in version 9.2.6, both in DSD 64, 128, and 256, as well as in PCM 24b 192kHz."

OTOH - the title of the thread says "problem moOde 9.3.2 with DSD". Does this mean that his high bit rate PCM tracks still play perfectly or not? Also, do the lags or gaps occur during playback of a track or only at beginning (or ending) or a track? 

Curious issue.

Regards,
Kent