Raspberry Pi OS 12 (Bookworm) released

[TheOldPresbyope]

@bitlab

For grins I tried building the Bookworm branch on a Pi5B/4GB running current Raspberry Pi OS 12 off a 32GB class 10 SanDisk Ultra memory card with modest Internet connectivity (downloads the moOde image from github in 2 minutes or ~9MB/s average).

A virgin build took 124 minutes and the resulting zip file, image_2023-11-16-moode-r900-dev~pre1-arm64-lite.zip,  is ca 1.5GB.


I'm surprised at the elapsed time given the Pi5's CPU speed advantage. Will drop back and  build moOde r837 from the main branch later today to see how long that takes.

Two questions: are you seeing similarly sized Bookworm zips? have you any thoughts about the long build time?

Regards,
Kent

[bitlab]

@TheOldPresbyope my image is also just below the 1.5GB (1.35), but here it takes a lot less time to build.

Used environment:

• PI5/8G
  
• 1GB wired network connection
  
• Decent internet connection (~200Mb all packages are downloaded) 
  
• Synology NAS with nfs mount as build storage
  

If you are using the the SD card for build storage I can imagine that it slows down the build.

[TheOldPresbyope]

@TheOldPresbyope my image is also just below the 1.5GB (1.35), but here it takes a lot less time to build.

Used environment:

• PI5/8G
  
• 1GB wired network connection
  
• Decent internet connection (~200Mb all packages are downloaded) 
  
• Synology NAS with nfs mount as build storage
  

If you are using the the SD card for build storage I can imagine that it slows down the build.

Interesting. My Internet connectivity is perhaps slower; even so, downloading 200MB should have taken less than 30 seconds. Yes, I was using the SD card for build storage. Naively, I wouldn't have thought it would slow things down by a factor of 2 or so. Still, the elapsed build times for both main and bookworm branches are overly long.

I'll have to spin up an NFS server on another Ethernet-connected host with a decent disk and try again to see what difference that might make. Too bad I don't (yet) has an M.2 hat to plug an SSD stick into.

As as aside, twice at different times today the r837 build failed during pi-gen-64/stage2/04-moode-install/01-packages with the error message

Code:

E: Failed to fetch http://archive.raspberrypi.org/debian/pool/main/f/ffmpeg/libavcodec58_4.3.6-0%2bdeb11u1%2brpt5_arm64.deb  Error reading from server - read (104: Connection reset by peer) [IP: 2a00:1098:82:47::1 80]
E: Unable to fetch some archives, maybe run apt-get update or try with --fix-missing?

Whatever was going, the third time I tried (always from a fresh clone of imgbuild to be sure the conditions are the same) the build succeeded.

Thanks for putting together and maintaining this automation. I used the manual process many times in the past but never enjoyed herding it.

Regards,
Kent

[TheOldPresbyope]

Well, I haven't gotten around to spinning up a fast NFS server but I did find a Samsung 980 SSD 1TB M.2 NVMe storage stick. Like I said, I don't have a M.2 Hat yet  so plonked the drive into a M.2 NVMe to USB3.2 adapter. Plugged it into one of the Pi 5B USB3.0 ports and, using it as the build directory, ran the builds for the main branch and the bookworm branch.

r837/bullseye - 21m20s
r900/bookworm - 27m19s

Compare to the 124m I got building on  the uSD system card. Pretty dramatic improvement and a nice demonstration of the Pi5B speed.


Regards,
Kent

[bitlab]

Great that sound workable!
Curious if PineBerryPi m2 bottom can reduce that even further?

[TheOldPresbyope]

Great that sound workable!
Curious if PineBerryPi m2 bottom can reduce that even further?

Me too  

I just found out about their two boards yesterday. Interesting origin story for Pineberry Pi. They project first shipments will occur early next month. I wonder how realistic that is and how long it will take to actually receive one in the USA?

Regards,
Kent

[Nutul]

Great that sound workable!
Curious if PineBerryPi m2 bottom can reduce that even further?

Me too  

I just found out about their two boards yesterday. Interesting origin story for Pineberry Pi. They project first shipments will occur early next month. I wonder how realistic that is and how long it will take to actually receive one in the USA?

Regards,
Kent

OMG!!! Gotta have one of those!!! Looks like it will cost me about 25 EUR for the TOP, and 32 EUR for the BOTTOM.
Anyway, first I'll need a Pi5... :-)
Probably for xmas, who knows...

[steve4star]

Great that sound workable!
Curious if PineBerryPi m2 bottom can reduce that even further?

Me too  

I just found out about their two boards yesterday. Interesting origin story for Pineberry Pi. They project first shipments will occur early next month. I wonder how realistic that is and how long it will take to actually receive one in the USA?

Regards,
Kent

OMG!!! Gotta have one of those!!! Looks like it will cost me about 25 EUR for the TOP, and 32 EUR for the BOTTOM.
Anyway, first I'll need a Pi5... :-)
Probably for xmas, who knows...

My Pi 5 has landed, and the Pineberry bottom is due 21st December.
Looks like New Year will be fun.

[TheOldPresbyope]

Great that sound workable!
Curious if PineBerryPi m2 bottom can reduce that even further?

Me too  

I just found out about their two boards yesterday. Interesting origin story for Pineberry Pi. They project first shipments will occur early next month. I wonder how realistic that is and how long it will take to actually receive one in the USA?

Regards,
Kent

OMG!!! Gotta have one of those!!! Looks like it will cost me about 25 EUR for the TOP, and 32 EUR for the BOTTOM.
Anyway, first I'll need a Pi5... :-)
Probably for xmas, who knows...

My Pi 5 has landed, and the Pineberry bottom is due 21st December.
Looks like New Year will be fun.

Yeah, I j got notice just yesterday Pineberry was shipping my M.2 bottom order. Looks like they'll beat out their well-established competitors. Not bad for two clever and entrepreneurial guys in Poland who launched just this last September.

Regards,
Kent