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Hello All,

First used a CBM 8000, then Amiga, Silicon Graphics.... on and on....
From a family of musicians, I have been a music and audio enthusiast since I was 5.

I currently have 3 Raspberry Pi, one of which is was running Logitech Media Server while also functioning as a large photo frame.

LMS did everything i wanted, but one....  it doesn't support bluetooth speaker style functionality.

I just discovered Moode, which unlike picore player, supports both bluetooth and LMS Client functions.

I now have both LMS and Moode running on the same Pi.    Moode for playback in the same room, LMS to stream to other rooms. Accessing a library of over 10,000 tracks via NFS share from a Pi 4 running OpenMediaVault

[TheOldPresbyope]

Hello All,

First used a CBM 8000, then Amiga, Silicon Graphics.... on and on....
From a family of musicians, I have been a music and audio enthusiast since I was 5.

I currently have 3 Raspberry Pi, one of which is was running Logitech Media Server while also functioning as a large photo frame.

LMS did everything i wanted, but one....  it doesn't support bluetooth speaker style functionality.

I just discovered Moode, which unlike picore player, supports both bluetooth and LMS Client functions.

I now have both LMS and Moode running on the same Pi.    Moode for playback in the same room, LMS to stream to other rooms. Accessing a library of over 10,000 tracks via NFS share from a Pi 4 running OpenMediaVault

Welcome aboard.

Glad to hear you're finding moOde to your liking. Tim deserves all the credit.

I prefer keeping my moOde players single-purpose, but as you've found, they can readily support other functionality as well.

Party on...and enjoy the music.

Regards,
Kent

PS - Silicon Graphics and IRIX - sic transit gloria mundi

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Welcome aboard.

Glad to hear you're finding moOde to your liking. Tim deserves all the credit.

Based on what I have seen so far, it's a very nicely done system. Thanks @Tim Curtis

I prefer keeping my moOde players single-purpose, but as you've found, they can readily support other functionality as well.

We shall see how well this works. I suspect that it will, given that LMS on this Pi4 was able to handle 3 different streams at once. I may pick up a Pi 5 if it can't handle it.


I did have LMS running on a 1st Gen apple TV with linux, due to the digital and analog outputs it had. 

In a bid to reduce the amount of hardware sitting on the shelf in the living room, I migrated LMS it to the DIY Photoframe (Dynaframe3 + Pi3 + computer monitor w custom wood frame and matting)

In a effort to get easy phone->bluetooth capability, I wiped the Pi and installed MoOde.... then added LMS running on a different port.
(Edit: Since Dynaframe3 photo frame software, can't run on Raspi Bullseye, I have "fen" configured grab photos off an NFS share, instead)

If MoOde had multi room "many-to-many" and "Synced one to many" streaming like LMS, and a way to bulk import/sync radio stations from a website, I would retire totally LMS.

Initial testing shows that running both Moode and LMS, simultaneously on the same pi4 (4gb) works well enough:
-Using MoOde I can play music in my living room via MoOde Player or my Phone->MoOde's Bluetooth Renderer.
-Using LMS I can stream to any remote squeezelite/squeezebox hardware, including the local squeezelite renderer in MoOde

Obviously unsupported by MoOde, but it currently works.

PS - Silicon Graphics and IRIX - sic transit gloria mundi

Hehe... someone who knows ! Amazing for graphics at the time.  I last used an Indigo2 Impact workstation.    Someone really needs to make a purple laptop hehe.

[TheOldPresbyope]

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I may pick up a Pi 5 if it can't handle it.

Keep in mind moOde hasn't been ported to and tested on the RPi5B yet. Tim and his merry band are on it as we write. The updated version  should be available by the time most folks have been able actually to put their hands on one. I "cheated" and got a 4GB model last fall by subscribing to the MagPi in order to get their early-access offer. Sparkfun just emailed me that the ordinary order I placed at the same time for an 8GB model probably will be fulfilled by the end of 1st quarter 2024. They claim to have nearly 10000 backorders for the 8GB model!

Any of the RPi4B models works very well with moOde with plenty of headroom/horsepower to spare.

Back in the day, I was running several SGI workstations in my lab along with a number of other Unix-based engineering workstations (DEC, Sun, IBM...) in support of work on CAD/CAM data exchange and what became the ISO STEP standard. We were tied into SGI servers in another lab which supported a VR cave we used from time to time. Good times.

My favorite SGI moment was when an cute IRIX 3-D file browser called fusion was used by "Lex" as she brought the park defenses back online in a dramatic scene in the original Jurassic Park movie. Her dialogue was priceless (especially for a tween) "This is a UNIX system. I know this." Nobody around me could figure out why I laughed out loud when tension was running so high.

Regards,
Kent

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If MoOde had multi room synced streaming like LMS, and a way to bulk import/sync radio stations from a website, I would retire LMS.

Hi, and welcome aboard :-)
You know what, I might tell you moOde can do multiroom... I don't think it can do many-to-many streaming, but 1-to-many is definitely yes.

Bulk-import I am not so sure... but having a look at the import itself, maybe something can be developed in the future; depending on feasibility, interest, and manpower... ;-)

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You know what, I might tell you moOde can do multiroom... I don't think it can do many-to-many streaming, but 1-to-many is definitely yes.

Yes. It's the many-to-many feature of LMS that I am talking about. Streaming different music to different speakers at the same time. I shall edit my previous post to make that clearer

Bulk-import I am not so sure... but having a look at the import itself, maybe something can be developed in the future; depending on feasibility, interest, and manpower... ;-)

I see it as a way to offload the work of maintaining a list of working Radio URLs, to some other group that does that... while increasing the number of stations, sorted by genres etc.

For example,  LMS has the ability to load addons/modules for tune-in, and other radio sites. No need for the LMS devs to maintain a list of stations. The add-ons just sync them from elsewhere.

As I get time this winter, I shall look around and see what resources are available.

Some streams are harder to find obviously.  I got into listening to  Cuban Music via streams from Cuba, and had to hunt down the urls to manually add those to LMS. When I get a chance I will extract them from a Pi backup and post them in the radio url thread.

Manpower is always the issue. :-)  I don't have any coding skills unfortunately. That said I would likely be willing to help in the future in other ways, if I keep using Moode Player. I did that with other projects in the past.

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in support of work on CAD/CAM data exchange and what became the ISO STEP standard. We were tied into SGI servers in another lab which supported a VR cave we used from time to time. Good times.

Data exchange ? Isn't that the process of using 3rd party software to convert one 3d model/file to another, because the other companies don't want to use a standard ? hehe.  

My favorite SGI moment was when an cute IRIX 3-D file browser called fusion

"fsn"  I had to google that, and found a bunch of images. It looks vaguely familiar. we may have installed the demo at one point.
We used our SGI boxes for 2D and 3D graphics for weather forecasts and animation production.

[epierre]

My favorite SGI moment was when an cute IRIX 3-D file browser called fusion

"fsn"  I had to google that, and found a bunch of images. It looks vaguely familiar. we may have installed the demo at one point.
We used our SGI boxes for 2D and 3D graphics for weather forecasts and animation production.

Huh I played on a Webforce to make it a webserver,, the first generation elf binaries ! sic transit gloria mundi ;-)