[PROBLEM] Pi zero: New Install unresponsive after seconds

[olaf.rottler]

use a couple of PI zero w with the mersus hat since 2021 without problems - greet system.
Got the new versions never working, tried not only one device, tried a lot of SD cards. Last with moode 8.2.5
After successfull boot you have only a few seconds to login, afterwards the session is gone and the display dark.
So I have no idea how to provide you the root cause, every other image run's without problems,

model name : ARMv6-compatible processor rev 7 (v6l)
BogoMIPS : 997.08
Features : half thumb fastmult vfp edsp java tls 
CPU implementer : 0x41
CPU architecture: 7
CPU variant : 0x0
CPU part : 0xb76
CPU revision : 7

Hardware : BCM2835
Revision : 9000c1
Serial : 000000005c723027
Model : Raspberry Pi Zero W Rev 1.1

[Tim Curtis]

moOde is headless and so its not possible to login from an attached display.

Connect via Ethernet and try http://moode or moode.local or IP_ADDRESS

[olaf.rottler]

moOde is headless and so its not possible to login from an attached display.

Connect via Ethernet and try http://moode or moode.local or IP_ADDRESS

Yes, that is very clear and I tried via WLAN IP (you can enable sshd too)) and afterwards with keyboard and HDMI to get at least cmd output (works up to few seconds after login prompt).
Unresponsive means not even icmp works afterwards and only cold reboot helps - so I have no idea how to further debug this issue now.

[DRONE7]

You may have missed the intent of Tim's post.

Just to check,
Connect your Pi to your local network then, from a browser on another machine, use the address http://moode (or moode.local or IP_ADDRESS  where IP_ADDRESS is the address for your Pi)

[olaf.rottler]

You may have missed the intent of Tim's post.

Just to check,  
Connect your Pi to your local network then, from a browser on another machine, use the address http://moode (or moode.local or IP_ADDRESS  where IP_ADDRESS is the address for your Pi)

hmm, guess I got it. But the PI Zero has no LAN interface and if the WLAN TCP/IP stack stops responding even to icmp a few seconds after boot  there is no chance to connect with http/layer 7. You also can't add hardware because the mersus hat is blocking all - I will buy some LAN hat if there is a zero available again and try that afterwards.

[willyside]

You may have missed the intent of Tim's post.

Just to check,  
Connect your Pi to your local network then, from a browser on another machine, use the address http://moode (or moode.local or IP_ADDRESS  where IP_ADDRESS is the address for your Pi)

hmm, guess I got it. But the PI Zero has no LAN interface and if the WLAN TCP/IP stack stops responding even to icmp a few seconds after boot  there is no chance to connect with http/layer 7. You also can't add hardware because the mersus hat is blocking all - I will buy some LAN hat if there is a zero available again and try that afterwards.

As an alternative to an Ethernet hat, how about a USB Ethernet adapter? You can get ones for less than $15 on Amazon that plug directly into the Zero’s micro USB otg port.

[Tim Curtis]

I can run a quick test on my zero-w at some point. ATM using iPhone hotspot after a rare Ice Storm knocked out power in my area. Power is back on now but my ISP is down.

[TheOldPresbyope]

@olaf.rottler 

I'm having trouble figuring out just what it is you are or aren't doing here.

Here's my quick test:

1. download a fresh copy of moOde 8.2.5 Legacy (required for Pi Zero/W)
   
2. flash it to a uSD card using Balena Etcher
   
3. insert the uSD card into a Pi Zero W and plug in a competent 5VDC supply.
   
4. wait some minutes while moOde initializes (among other things it takes time to expand the file system)
   
5. look for a new 2.4GHz access point advertising the SSID "moode"
   
6. Associate a client (my iPad in this case) with this AP
   
7. enter "http://moode.local" in the Safari browser searchbar
   
8. ---voilà---I'm looking at the moOdeUI.
   
9. configure as desired
   

Regards,
Kent

[olaf.rottler]

You may have missed the intent of Tim's post.

Just to check,  
Connect your Pi to your local network then, from a browser on another machine, use the address http://moode (or moode.local or IP_ADDRESS  where IP_ADDRESS is the address for your Pi)

hmm, guess I got it. But the PI Zero has no LAN interface and if the WLAN TCP/IP stack stops responding even to icmp a few seconds after boot  there is no chance to connect with http/layer 7. You also can't add hardware because the mersus hat is blocking all - I will buy some LAN hat if there is a zero available again and try that afterwards.

As an alternative to an Ethernet hat, how about a USB Ethernet adapter? You can get ones for less than $15 on Amazon that plug directly into the Zero’s micro USB otg port.

I changed from manually editing the image files to the Raspberry PI Imager with personal settings and the problem is gone. Doesn't see the difference, but will not explore the difference further. Thank's a lot for your hints.