Bluetooth issues in Canada

[Jakekoe]

The volume is all up. On my iPad I can play Radio Paradise from ipad apo the iPad speaker as well as to a JVC Bluetooth speaker using either Airplay and Bluetooth without having to adjust the volume. Load and clear no problem. It connects and the music plays and I can control the volume from the iPad.

During this same test if I select the Moode Bluetooth or Moode Airplay it connects but with no sound. I can see it’s connecting and the stream on the MPD stops playing to allow for the Bluetooth connection but no sound.

I can adjust the volume all the way up on both the RP browser and the iPad volume settings but not sound…

Sorry this is such a pain.

So to regroup and assess.
- Sound from Moode MPD is great so this means the DAC hat is working.
- there’s no resets to the Pi to correct a bad setting for the Bluetooth.
- I’ve burned all 3 current ISO images with the same results.
- volumes are all up and the Bluetooth works fine on 3 different devices to a JVC BT speaker.

Am I correct on these points?

Is it possible that somehow the BT component of the Pi is bad and somehow connects but doesn’t process the incoming signal to the DAC?

[Tim Curtis]

It's not obvious to me what might be happening but the logs indicate that a PCM 16/44.1 stream is being output to the DAC by bluealsa-aplay. Its all very odd.

[Jakekoe]

For what it's worth, I've been able to install Volumio (premium trial) and get the airplay and Bluetooth to connect and play correctly from my phone and iPad with no problem... I can't seem to get my 2 laptop to connect but at least I know the BT is working on the Pi. It seems there has to be some disconnect or volume setting that is preventing Moode from outputting sound on my Rpi?

[TheOldPresbyope]

For what it's worth, I've been able to install Volumio (premium trial) and get the airplay and Bluetooth to connect and play correctly from my phone and iPad with no problem...  I can't seem to get my 2 laptop to connect but at least I know the BT is working on the Pi. It seems there has to be some disconnect or volume setting that is preventing Moode from outputting sound on my Rpi?

Not new information. The current Volumio image for Pi I just downloaded is based on an earlier kernel (6.1.77-v7+) and earlier Bluez (5.50-1.2-deb10u5) as part of Raspberry Pi OS Buster and I'd expect it to behave like some earlier, similarly based version of moOde. 

The current version of moOde, 9.0.3, is built on the current release of Raspberry Pi OS Bookworm. If we figure out there's a problem with Bluetooth it'll have to be addressed in the Raspberry Pi OS devs forum.

I see in your first post you are working with a Pi 3B (v1.2?). I'll see if I can dig one out and try to repro your issue. My testing of moOde 9.0.x with other, newer model Pis hasn't shown the issue.

Also in your first post you said "I'll also add that the Airplay function from the iPad isn't working any longer as well and since that's Bluetooth I'm feeling like it's a Pi thing or a setting in Moode?"

Most emphatically, AirPlay is not Bluetooth. It works over WiFi and, again, I'm not seeing an issue with moOde 9.0.3 on later model Pis. That it also is not working for you is actually additional information.


Regards,
Kent

[Jakekoe]

Great thanks for your information. I didn't realize airplay was on wifi. .

Just a thought, on my PecanPi, I have a hardware volume which I always keep about 80% up. I seem to remember a setting in configure that addresses a hardware/software volume setting. Is it possible this could play into my issue? I'll try to see if that affects it later tonight...

Thanks for all your help and if I can help in any way. Please let me know.

[Tim Curtis]

Great thanks for your information. I didn't realize airplay was on wifi. .

Just a thought, on my PecanPi, I have a hardware volume which I always keep about 80% up. I seem to remember a setting in configure that addresses a hardware/software volume setting. Is it possible this could play into my issue?  I'll try to see if that affects it later tonight...

Thanks for all your help and if I can help in any way. Please let me know.

Whats a PecanPi?

[Jakekoe]

A small pastry.... No sorry. I couldn't resist.

It a raspberryPi 3 with a DAC hat. To use with the latest version of Moode I have to use the hifiberry DAC driver which works.

Mine is the first generation but here's the latest one.

https://orchardaudio.com/pecanpi_plus_im...t_results/

[Tim Curtis]

What i2s driver does the manufacturer specify for the device?

ETA: If the device has its own volume control then make sure its at a high enough level.

[TheOldPresbyope]

The PecanPi instructions are hard to find on their website and not that informative after you get past the marketing hoopla about its great performance numbers.

I did winkle these lines out of their PecanPi-DAC-and-Kit-Instructions-R3.pdf for the original version (this doc mentions Volumio and Ropieee but not moOde)

PecanPi® DAC and Kit Instructions
PecanPi DAC SW Configuration
The PecanPi DAC uses the RPI-DAC overlay/driver. This is what you have to select in your RPi
software package or enable in the config.txt file with the following command:
dtoverlay=rpi‑dac

That overlay doesn't exist in recent moOde (or Volumio) distro but rpi-dacplus does. I suppose the rpi-dac is not dissimilar to the hifiberry-dac overlay, but I have no way of testing that. In any case, you do have have tried with software volume control selected, right?


But then there's

PecanPi® DAC and Kit Instructions
Wi-Fi with PecanPi® DAC
Disable the Raspberry Pi’s or Tinker Boards' internal Wi-Fi and Bluetooth. If you need Wi-Fi
operation, use one of the recommended Wi-Fi to ethernet bridges:

What's that all about???

Regards,
Kent

[Tim Curtis]

IIRC the old rip-dac overlay was renamed by the pi kernel devs to i2s-dac a while back.
In moode its the "Generic-I2S (i2s-dac)" item in the "Named I2S device" list.