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Upcoming moOde 7 series
(11-08-2020, 04:33 PM)Coustard Wrote:
(11-02-2020, 02:57 PM)bitlab Wrote: @Coustard to migrate existing settings:  Q = 0.5 / BW  (where BW is the EqFa filter bandwidth, not general bandwidth)

Actually, and at the risk of sounding ungrateful, are you sure? I know this is an oft-quoted conversion but I've just spent an afternoon capturing EQ curves from moOde6 .71 in REW and it doesn't look right.

Methodology: 
1. Play white noise from moOde, set a single band of EQ to +10dB at 1kHz at various bandwidths and capture averaged (16x) RTA curves in REW. 
2. Play white noise in Apple Logic (DAW), set a single band of built-in EQ to +10dB at 1kHz at various Q factors and capture as above.
3. Visually match curves (example attached)
4. Tabulate.

I should say that I tried a variety of Eqs in Logic ('standard' types rather than Ye Olde recreations) to confirm kind of consensus on curve shape and they all basically agreed.

Results (moOde BW v Logic Q):
0.2      3.8
0.3      2.6
0.4      1.9
0.5      1.5
0.6      1.3
0.7      1.1
0.8      1
0.9      0.93
1         0.79
1.1      0.75
1.2      0.71
1.3      0.67
1.4      0.6
1.5      0.54
2         0.4

My undergraduate maths is too rusty to work out the relationship but it's plainly not linear. Assuming the maths involved is the same for the new 12-band Eq then this will work okay for me as a look-up table, but it would be nice to have an equation.

Varying gain changes things a bit too - moOde's eq becomes slightly broader than Logic as I reduce band gain but I can live with that.

There's some interesting stuff at http://www.sengpielaudio.com/calculator-bandwidth.htm but their equations still don't produce what I'm seeing in REW.

As I said, I don't want to appear ungrateful - it's great to have the facility and this is more about curiosity than anything else.

On the contrary, I am grateful that someone else also took a look at it :-)

To prevent clutter of the release hread;  shall we take the discussion to an other exsiting thread http://moodeaudio.org/forum/showthread.p...316&page=3 ?
I have also added there one of my measurements. Also I have some issue with gain when I combine multiple filters I see an issue with the gain, see the result there.


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Upcoming moOde 7 series - by Tim Curtis - 08-02-2020, 01:33 PM
RE: moOde 7 series - by CallMeMike - 08-02-2020, 01:45 PM
RE: moOde 7 series - by grasshopper - 08-02-2020, 05:05 PM
RE: moOde 7 series - by suzywong - 08-02-2020, 06:39 PM
RE: moOde 7 series - by grasshopper - 08-02-2020, 10:14 PM
RE: moOde 7 series - by Frusty_the_snowman - 08-04-2020, 03:36 PM
RE: moOde 7 series - by Tim Curtis - 08-04-2020, 08:01 PM
RE: moOde 7 series - by Onionhead - 08-04-2020, 09:31 PM
RE: moOde 7 series - by Tim Curtis - 08-04-2020, 10:45 PM
RE: moOde 7 series - by fdealexa - 08-05-2020, 11:26 PM
RE: moOde 7 series - by Tim Curtis - 08-05-2020, 11:42 PM
RE: moOde 7 series - by fdealexa - 08-06-2020, 12:10 AM
RE: moOde 7 series - by CallMeMike - 08-06-2020, 05:44 AM
RE: moOde 7 series - by Tim Curtis - 08-06-2020, 10:40 AM
RE: moOde 7 series - by DRONE7 - 08-06-2020, 06:33 AM
RE: Upcoming moOde 7 series - by TheOldPresbyope - 08-06-2020, 12:38 PM
RE: Upcoming moOde 7 series - by fdealexa - 08-06-2020, 01:15 PM
RE: Upcoming moOde 7 series - by fdealexa - 08-06-2020, 02:05 PM
RE: Upcoming moOde 7 series - by Tim Curtis - 08-06-2020, 03:48 PM
RE: Upcoming moOde 7 series - by suzywong - 08-06-2020, 07:28 PM
RE: Upcoming moOde 7 series - by bitlab - 08-06-2020, 08:22 PM
RE: Upcoming moOde 7 series - by kit1cat - 08-07-2020, 08:01 AM
RE: Upcoming moOde 7 series - by CallMeMike - 08-08-2020, 07:14 AM
RE: Upcoming moOde 7 series - by swizzle - 08-08-2020, 07:47 PM
RE: Upcoming moOde 7 series - by duke.g - 08-07-2020, 11:18 AM
RE: Upcoming moOde 7 series - by Tim Curtis - 08-06-2020, 09:15 PM
RE: Upcoming moOde 7 series - by Tim Curtis - 08-08-2020, 12:34 PM
RE: Upcoming moOde 7 series - by Tim Curtis - 08-09-2020, 07:56 PM
RE: Upcoming moOde 7 series - by Blixa - 08-11-2020, 09:19 AM
RE: Upcoming moOde 7 series - by deafnut - 08-11-2020, 04:51 PM
RE: Upcoming moOde 7 series - by TheOldPresbyope - 08-11-2020, 04:56 PM
RE: Upcoming moOde 7 series - by Tim Curtis - 08-11-2020, 05:01 PM
RE: Upcoming moOde 7 series - by Zootalaws - 08-11-2020, 10:26 PM
RE: Upcoming moOde 7 series - by Tim Curtis - 08-11-2020, 10:30 PM
RE: Upcoming moOde 7 series - by Zootalaws - 08-12-2020, 01:28 AM
RE: Upcoming moOde 7 series - by DRONE7 - 08-12-2020, 04:17 AM
RE: Upcoming moOde 7 series - by Zootalaws - 08-13-2020, 02:35 AM
RE: Upcoming moOde 7 series - by TheOldPresbyope - 08-12-2020, 02:49 AM
RE: Upcoming moOde 7 series - by Zootalaws - 08-13-2020, 02:39 AM
RE: Upcoming moOde 7 series - by DRONE7 - 08-13-2020, 06:59 AM
RE: Upcoming moOde 7 series - by Tim Curtis - 08-18-2020, 01:07 PM
RE: Upcoming moOde 7 series - by grasshopper - 08-18-2020, 05:12 PM
RE: Upcoming moOde 7 series - by suzywong - 08-19-2020, 09:50 PM
RE: Upcoming moOde 7 series - by TheOldPresbyope - 08-19-2020, 10:20 PM
RE: Upcoming moOde 7 series - by suzywong - 08-19-2020, 10:23 PM
RE: Upcoming moOde 7 series - by Tim Curtis - 08-19-2020, 11:25 PM
RE: Upcoming moOde 7 series - by swizzle - 08-21-2020, 03:30 AM
RE: Upcoming moOde 7 series - by DRONE7 - 08-21-2020, 06:56 AM
RE: Upcoming moOde 7 series - by Tim Curtis - 08-25-2020, 10:02 PM
RE: Upcoming moOde 7 series - by the_bertrum - 08-26-2020, 03:53 PM
RE: Upcoming moOde 7 series - by blackie333 - 08-28-2020, 10:58 AM
RE: Upcoming moOde 7 series - by Tim Curtis - 08-28-2020, 03:18 PM
RE: Upcoming moOde 7 series - by godt2p4 - 08-29-2020, 12:19 PM
RE: Upcoming moOde 7 series - by Tim Curtis - 08-29-2020, 01:38 PM
RE: Upcoming moOde 7 series - by godt2p4 - 09-07-2020, 01:59 AM
RE: Upcoming moOde 7 series - by Tim Curtis - 09-01-2020, 03:00 PM
RE: Upcoming moOde 7 series - by zazouboy - 09-02-2020, 02:49 PM
RE: Upcoming moOde 7 series - by the_bertrum - 09-01-2020, 03:11 PM
RE: Upcoming moOde 7 series - by Tim Curtis - 09-01-2020, 04:45 PM
RE: Upcoming moOde 7 series - by the_bertrum - 09-02-2020, 08:43 AM
RE: Upcoming moOde 7 series - by Tim Curtis - 09-03-2020, 10:22 PM
RE: Upcoming moOde 7 series - by dbobinoz - 09-07-2020, 01:10 PM
RE: Upcoming moOde 7 series - by Tim Curtis - 09-06-2020, 10:25 PM
RE: Upcoming moOde 7 series - by Soldeed - 09-08-2020, 03:11 PM
RE: Upcoming moOde 7 series - by Tim Curtis - 09-07-2020, 02:50 AM
RE: Upcoming moOde 7 series - by Tim Curtis - 09-07-2020, 02:02 PM
RE: Upcoming moOde 7 series - by yannig - 09-07-2020, 02:32 PM
RE: Upcoming moOde 7 series - by Tim Curtis - 09-08-2020, 04:00 PM
RE: Upcoming moOde 7 series - by the_bertrum - 09-09-2020, 07:53 AM
RE: Upcoming moOde 7 series - by DRONE7 - 09-09-2020, 08:18 AM
RE: Upcoming moOde 7 series - by the_bertrum - 09-09-2020, 08:48 AM
RE: Upcoming moOde 7 series - by DRONE7 - 09-09-2020, 09:06 AM
RE: Upcoming moOde 7 series - by TookaFace - 09-09-2020, 09:27 AM
RE: Upcoming moOde 7 series - by the_bertrum - 09-09-2020, 09:51 AM
RE: Upcoming moOde 7 series - by Tim Curtis - 09-09-2020, 11:53 AM
RE: Upcoming moOde 7 series - by Tim Curtis - 09-09-2020, 11:35 AM
RE: Upcoming moOde 7 series - by the_bertrum - 09-09-2020, 12:26 PM
RE: Upcoming moOde 7 series - by Tim Curtis - 09-09-2020, 12:54 PM
RE: Upcoming moOde 7 series - by the_bertrum - 09-09-2020, 06:17 PM
RE: Upcoming moOde 7 series - by bitlab - 09-09-2020, 07:09 PM
RE: Upcoming moOde 7 series - by Tim Curtis - 09-09-2020, 07:27 PM
RE: Upcoming moOde 7 series - by the_bertrum - 09-10-2020, 01:00 PM
RE: Upcoming moOde 7 series - by Tim Curtis - 09-09-2020, 07:16 PM
RE: Upcoming moOde 7 series - by the_bertrum - 09-10-2020, 12:57 PM
RE: Upcoming moOde 7 series - by Tim Curtis - 09-10-2020, 04:07 PM
RE: Upcoming moOde 7 series - by TookaFace - 09-09-2020, 08:48 PM
RE: Upcoming moOde 7 series - by Tim Curtis - 09-10-2020, 12:21 PM
RE: Upcoming moOde 7 series - by TookaFace - 09-10-2020, 12:33 PM
RE: Upcoming moOde 7 series - by Tim Curtis - 09-10-2020, 12:57 PM
RE: Upcoming moOde 7 series - by Tim Curtis - 09-10-2020, 09:44 PM
RE: Upcoming moOde 7 series - by the_bertrum - 09-11-2020, 07:54 AM
RE: Upcoming moOde 7 series - by Tim Curtis - 09-11-2020, 12:19 PM
RE: Upcoming moOde 7 series - by bitlab - 09-11-2020, 12:58 PM
RE: Upcoming moOde 7 series - by Tim Curtis - 09-10-2020, 10:16 PM
RE: Upcoming moOde 7 series - by hestehandler - 09-11-2020, 10:53 AM
RE: Upcoming moOde 7 series - by Tim Curtis - 09-11-2020, 01:34 PM
RE: Upcoming moOde 7 series - by TheOldPresbyope - 09-11-2020, 01:44 PM
RE: Upcoming moOde 7 series - by Tim Curtis - 09-11-2020, 01:51 PM
RE: Upcoming moOde 7 series - by godt2p4 - 09-14-2020, 01:13 AM
RE: Upcoming moOde 7 series - by Tim Curtis - 09-14-2020, 01:37 AM
RE: Upcoming moOde 7 series - by godt2p4 - 09-15-2020, 03:43 AM
RE: Upcoming moOde 7 series - by Tim Curtis - 09-15-2020, 12:14 AM
RE: Upcoming moOde 7 series - by Tim Curtis - 09-15-2020, 12:38 AM
RE: Upcoming moOde 7 series - by Tim Curtis - 09-15-2020, 01:45 AM
RE: Upcoming moOde 7 series - by challenge - 09-15-2020, 10:30 AM
RE: Upcoming moOde 7 series - by Tim Curtis - 09-15-2020, 11:28 AM
RE: Upcoming moOde 7 series - by challenge - 09-15-2020, 11:41 AM
RE: Upcoming moOde 7 series - by TheOldPresbyope - 09-15-2020, 11:43 AM
RE: Upcoming moOde 7 series - by challenge - 09-15-2020, 12:12 PM
RE: Upcoming moOde 7 series - by Tim Curtis - 09-15-2020, 12:28 PM
RE: Upcoming moOde 7 series - by TheOldPresbyope - 09-15-2020, 12:35 PM
RE: Upcoming moOde 7 series - by challenge - 09-15-2020, 01:22 PM
RE: Upcoming moOde 7 series - by Tim Curtis - 09-15-2020, 01:29 PM
RE: Upcoming moOde 7 series - by bitlab - 09-16-2020, 08:05 AM
RE: Upcoming moOde 7 series - by Tim Curtis - 09-15-2020, 01:56 PM
RE: Upcoming moOde 7 series - by challenge - 09-15-2020, 02:58 PM
RE: Upcoming moOde 7 series - by Tim Curtis - 09-15-2020, 04:02 PM
RE: Upcoming moOde 7 series - by Tim Curtis - 09-16-2020, 12:32 PM
RE: Upcoming moOde 7 series - by yannig - 09-21-2020, 01:28 PM
RE: Upcoming moOde 7 series - by Tim Curtis - 09-21-2020, 02:45 PM
RE: Upcoming moOde 7 series - by yannig - 09-22-2020, 06:54 AM
RE: Upcoming moOde 7 series - by bitlab - 09-22-2020, 10:26 AM
RE: Upcoming moOde 7 series - by yannig - 09-23-2020, 10:11 AM
RE: Upcoming moOde 7 series - by Tim Curtis - 09-23-2020, 03:05 PM
RE: Upcoming moOde 7 series - by Tim Curtis - 09-24-2020, 05:12 PM
RE: Upcoming moOde 7 series - by lelobster - 09-24-2020, 05:16 PM
RE: Upcoming moOde 7 series - by kiwipaul - 10-06-2020, 12:42 AM
RE: Upcoming moOde 7 series - by Tim Curtis - 10-06-2020, 01:00 AM
RE: Upcoming moOde 7 series - by Tim Curtis - 10-06-2020, 02:32 AM
RE: Upcoming moOde 7 series - by oculto - 10-06-2020, 02:12 AM
RE: Upcoming moOde 7 series - by Tim Curtis - 10-06-2020, 02:26 AM
RE: Upcoming moOde 7 series - by kiwipaul - 10-08-2020, 07:51 PM
RE: Upcoming moOde 7 series - by TheOldPresbyope - 10-08-2020, 08:23 PM
RE: Upcoming moOde 7 series - by Tim Curtis - 10-15-2020, 09:07 PM
RE: Upcoming moOde 7 series - by DRONE7 - 10-15-2020, 09:16 PM
RE: Upcoming moOde 7 series - by Tim Curtis - 10-15-2020, 10:43 PM
RE: Upcoming moOde 7 series - by grasshopper - 10-16-2020, 06:35 PM
RE: Upcoming moOde 7 series - by Tim Curtis - 10-22-2020, 11:01 PM
RE: Upcoming moOde 7 series - by DRONE7 - 10-22-2020, 11:42 PM
RE: Upcoming moOde 7 series - by Tim Curtis - 10-23-2020, 12:49 AM
RE: Upcoming moOde 7 series - by DRONE7 - 10-23-2020, 01:18 AM
RE: Upcoming moOde 7 series - by Tim Curtis - 10-23-2020, 12:47 PM
RE: Upcoming moOde 7 series - by Tim Curtis - 10-27-2020, 08:19 PM
RE: Upcoming moOde 7 series - by cereyanlimusiki - 10-28-2020, 09:42 AM
RE: Upcoming moOde 7 series - by Tim Curtis - 10-28-2020, 10:58 AM
RE: Upcoming moOde 7 series - by pana800 - 10-31-2020, 02:11 AM
RE: Upcoming moOde 7 series - by sheridat - 10-28-2020, 11:53 AM
RE: Upcoming moOde 7 series - by TookaFace - 10-28-2020, 12:09 PM
RE: Upcoming moOde 7 series - by Tim Curtis - 10-28-2020, 12:09 PM
RE: Upcoming moOde 7 series - by TheOldPresbyope - 10-28-2020, 01:10 PM
RE: Upcoming moOde 7 series - by Tim Curtis - 10-28-2020, 02:48 PM
RE: Upcoming moOde 7 series - by Tim Curtis - 10-29-2020, 03:48 PM
RE: Upcoming moOde 7 series - by Coustard - 10-30-2020, 11:07 PM
RE: Upcoming moOde 7 series - by Tim Curtis - 11-02-2020, 02:41 PM
RE: Upcoming moOde 7 series - by Coustard - 11-02-2020, 10:13 PM
RE: Upcoming moOde 7 series - by bitlab - 11-02-2020, 02:57 PM
RE: Upcoming moOde 7 series - by Coustard - 11-02-2020, 10:15 PM
RE: Upcoming moOde 7 series - by Coustard - 11-08-2020, 04:33 PM
RE: Upcoming moOde 7 series - by bitlab - 11-08-2020, 05:07 PM
RE: Upcoming moOde 7 series - by moodenigo - 11-08-2020, 11:08 PM
RE: Upcoming moOde 7 series - by Tim Curtis - 11-03-2020, 02:45 AM
RE: Upcoming moOde 7 series - by DRONE7 - 11-03-2020, 06:04 AM
RE: Upcoming moOde 7 series - by moodenigo - 11-08-2020, 11:03 PM
RE: Upcoming moOde 7 series - by Tim Curtis - 11-08-2020, 11:11 PM
RE: Upcoming moOde 7 series - by Niklasmagnus - 11-20-2020, 12:39 PM
RE: Upcoming moOde 7 series - by Tim Curtis - 11-20-2020, 01:18 PM
RE: Upcoming moOde 7 series - by Niklasmagnus - 11-20-2020, 01:45 PM
RE: Upcoming moOde 7 series - by Tim Curtis - 11-20-2020, 03:40 PM
RE: Upcoming moOde 7 series - by DRONE7 - 11-21-2020, 03:32 AM
RE: Upcoming moOde 7 series - by TheOldPresbyope - 11-21-2020, 01:00 PM
RE: Upcoming moOde 7 series - by Tim Curtis - 11-21-2020, 04:09 AM
RE: Upcoming moOde 7 series - by DRONE7 - 11-21-2020, 04:24 AM
RE: Upcoming moOde 7 series - by Tim Curtis - 11-21-2020, 02:29 PM
RE: Upcoming moOde 7 series - by DRONE7 - 11-26-2020, 05:01 AM
RE: Upcoming moOde 7 series - by Tim Curtis - 11-26-2020, 01:15 PM
RE: Upcoming moOde 7 series - by sheridat - 11-21-2020, 12:47 PM
RE: Upcoming moOde 7 series - by Tim Curtis - 11-21-2020, 02:31 PM
RE: Upcoming moOde 7 series - by suzywong - 11-21-2020, 02:14 PM
RE: Upcoming moOde 7 series - by Tim Curtis - 11-21-2020, 02:32 PM
RE: Upcoming moOde 7 series - by suzywong - 11-21-2020, 02:38 PM
RE: Upcoming moOde 7 series - by Tim Curtis - 11-21-2020, 02:42 PM
RE: Upcoming moOde 7 series - by suzywong - 11-21-2020, 02:47 PM
RE: Upcoming moOde 7 series - by Tim Curtis - 11-21-2020, 07:32 PM
RE: Upcoming moOde 7 series - by fritschomat - 11-26-2020, 12:19 PM
RE: Upcoming moOde 7 series - by suzywong - 11-22-2020, 10:43 PM
RE: Upcoming moOde 7 series - by Tim Curtis - 11-22-2020, 11:00 PM
RE: Upcoming moOde 7 series - by suzywong - 11-22-2020, 11:57 PM
RE: Upcoming moOde 7 series - by Tim Curtis - 11-23-2020, 12:09 AM
RE: Upcoming moOde 7 series - by Tim Curtis - 11-23-2020, 01:46 AM
RE: Upcoming moOde 7 series - by SoundAdikt - 11-25-2020, 10:50 AM
RE: Upcoming moOde 7 series - by Tim Curtis - 12-12-2020, 11:33 PM
RE: Upcoming moOde 7 series - by cuchucabrera - 12-17-2020, 11:12 AM
RE: Upcoming moOde 7 series - by DRONE7 - 12-13-2020, 12:48 AM

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