Raspberry Pi OS 12 (Bookworm) released

[Nutul]

Code:

sudo nmcli connection up blonch

and similarly to switch back to bletch in infrastructure mode.

If an Ethernet connection happens to be present, it remains up.

Good job Kent, this is really beautiful. Now me wants moOde switch over to nmcli... :-)

[TheOldPresbyope]

My Pi5/4GB arrived this evening.

I stuck in the same uSD card I'd used in my earlier tests with Pi3B+ and Pi4B of Bookworm Lite and the localui setup we use in moOde. It booted fine but I've hit my first bump in the road. The system is running but Xserver fails to start.

From the Xorg.0.log

Code:

...
[     6.183] (II) Loading /usr/lib/xorg/modules/libfbdevhw.so
[     6.195] (II) Module fbdevhw: vendor="X.Org Foundation"
[     6.195]    compiled for 1.21.1.7, module version = 0.0.2
[     6.195]    ABI class: X.Org Video Driver, version 25.2
[     6.195] (II) FBDEV(0): using default device
[     6.197] (II) modeset(G0): using drv /dev/dri/card1
[     6.197] (EE)
Fatal server error:
[     6.197] (EE) Cannot run in framebuffer mode. Please specify busIDs        for all framebuffer devices
...

This error message shows up in Google searches but I haven't digested the responses yet.

Regards,
Kent

[Tim Curtis]

My Pi5/4GB arrived this evening.

I stuck in the same uSD card I'd used in my earlier tests with Pi3B+ and Pi4B of Bookworm Lite and the localui setup we use in moOde. It booted fine but I've hit my first bump in the road. The system is running but Xserver fails to start.

From the Xorg.0.log

Code:

...
[     6.183] (II) Loading /usr/lib/xorg/modules/libfbdevhw.so
[     6.195] (II) Module fbdevhw: vendor="X.Org Foundation"
[     6.195]    compiled for 1.21.1.7, module version = 0.0.2
[     6.195]    ABI class: X.Org Video Driver, version 25.2
[     6.195] (II) FBDEV(0): using default device
[     6.197] (II) modeset(G0): using drv /dev/dri/card1
[     6.197] (EE)
Fatal server error:
[     6.197] (EE) Cannot run in framebuffer mode. Please specify busIDs        for all framebuffer devices
...

This error message shows up in Google searches but I haven't digested the responses yet.

Regards,
Kent

For the 5 it's prolly better to figure out what packages, configs and commands are needed to do local display using Wayland.

[Tim Curtis]

My Pi5/4GB arrived this evening.

I stuck in the same uSD card I'd used in my earlier tests with Pi3B+ and Pi4B of Bookworm Lite and the localui setup we use in moOde. It booted fine but I've hit my first bump in the road. The system is running but Xserver fails to start.

From the Xorg.0.log

Code:

...
[     6.183] (II) Loading /usr/lib/xorg/modules/libfbdevhw.so
[     6.195] (II) Module fbdevhw: vendor="X.Org Foundation"
[     6.195]    compiled for 1.21.1.7, module version = 0.0.2
[     6.195]    ABI class: X.Org Video Driver, version 25.2
[     6.195] (II) FBDEV(0): using default device
[     6.197] (II) modeset(G0): using drv /dev/dri/card1
[     6.197] (EE)
Fatal server error:
[     6.197] (EE) Cannot run in framebuffer mode. Please specify busIDs        for all framebuffer devices
...

This error message shows up in Google searches but I haven't digested the responses yet.

Regards,
Kent

For the 5 it's prolly better to figure out what packages, configs and commands are needed to do local display using Wayland.

Here's one of the Bookworm announcement blogs from Simon Long. It mentions Wayland, etc.
https://www.raspberrypi.com/news/bookwor...rry-pi-os/

[TheOldPresbyope]

My Pi5/4GB arrived this evening.

I stuck in the same uSD card I'd used in my earlier tests with Pi3B+ and Pi4B of Bookworm Lite and the localui setup we use in moOde. It booted fine but I've hit my first bump in the road. The system is running but Xserver fails to start.

...

For the 5 it's prolly better to figure out what packages, configs and commands are needed to do local display using Wayland.

Here's one of the Bookworm announcement blogs from Simon Long. It mentions Wayland, etc.
https://www.raspberrypi.com/news/bookwor...rry-pi-os/

Maybe so, but I'm stubborn and this feels like just a misconfiguration problem. If solved, we could kick the Wayland can down the road a bit...like until the RPF-folk declare Wayland is suitable for the 2s and 3s.

Then again, I may be pounding sand.

Have you been reading the Raspberry Pi Documentation lately? The existing material is getting reworked with more detail and explanations while at the same time they're shoehorning in facts about the 5. Mostly the information is consistent but sometimes seems not so much. Definitely a work in progress.

Regards,
Kent

[Tim Curtis]

I check the docs every so often just to get a sense of how much change is happening around the 5 and Bookworm but mainly I monitor the Pi Linux kernel issues list and rpi-update releases, and also the apt update list for Bookworm.

Based on what I see its definitely going to be best to wait until at least the next official Pi kernel release because if we do a moOde Bookworm release before that we will just end up having to do multiple bugfix releases.

Given that we are going to wait anyway I think time is better spent figuring out a Wayland config for Pi 5 local display as opposed to some type of X11 workaround. Figuring out how to turn on/off the HDMI port in Bookworm would be a good first step :-)

[TheOldPresbyope]

Got it!

[TheOldPresbyope]

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Given that we are going to wait anyway I think time is better spent figuring out a Wayland config for Pi 5 local display as opposed to some type of X11 workaround. Figuring out how to turn on/off the HDMI port in Bookworm would be a good first step :-)

Okay, so I've gotten back to playing with Wayland---should have something to show in a day or so.

Regarding the HDMI port, this thread on the RPi Forum seems relevant but I haven't tested the suggestions vcgencmd display power 0 doesn't work....

Regards,
Kent

[Tim Curtis]

...

Given that we are going to wait anyway I think time is better spent figuring out a Wayland config for Pi 5 local display as opposed to some type of X11 workaround. Figuring out how to turn on/off the HDMI port in Bookworm would be a good first step :-)

Okay, so I've gotten back to playing with Wayland---should have something to show in a day or so.

Regarding the HDMI port, this thread on the RPi Forum seems relevant but I haven't tested the suggestions vcgencmd display power 0 doesn't work....

Regards,
Kent

I think the original idea behind the option was to reduce power consumption but maybe it's not really needed anymore?

[TheOldPresbyope]

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...

Regarding the HDMI port, this thread on the RPi Forum seems relevant but I haven't tested the suggestions vcgencmd display power 0 doesn't work....

Regards,
Kent

I think the original idea behind the option was to reduce power consumption but maybe it's not really needed anymore?

I never bothered with it. I don't discern a meaningful improvement in boot time and all my Pis are adequately powered. I suppose someone building a portable player might care.

Regards,
Kent