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Let the games begin 
I've been running a full Bookworm installation on a Pi400 and a Bookworm Lite installation on a Pi4B for several weeks now. Been getting package updates seems like every day but not paying attention to how many originate with Debian vs how may with the RPF.
Unfortunately, events IRL have forced me to pause my exploration on the impact of the transition from Bullseye to Bookworm.
Fun fact: an hour ago Pishop.us emailed me that they've shipped my Pi5/4GB order today. Subscribing to MagPi in order to get the priority boarding code seems to have paid off.
Regards,
Kent
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(10-25-2023, 04:08 PM)TheOldPresbyope Wrote: Let the games begin
I've been running a full Bookworm installation on a Pi400 and a Bookworm Lite installation on a Pi4B for several weeks now. Been getting package updates seems like every day but not paying attention to how many originate with Debian vs how may with the RPF.
Unfortunately, events IRL have forced me to pause my exploration on the impact of the transition from Bullseye to Bookworm.
Fun fact: an hour ago Pishop.us emailed me that they've shipped my Pi5/4GB order today. Subscribing to MagPi in order to get the priority boarding code seems to have paid off.
Regards,
Kent
Hey, thats cool :-)
I did a Pi5 pre-order from Chicago Electronics a while back but it hasn't shipped yet.
Based on kernel commits referencing the Pi 5 I'd say the next official Bookworm Pi kernel bump will be a must install.
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Below is the current status of the bookworm external packages build:
Most external moode specific packages are build for bookworm 64bit and uploaded to the repo
Except for the kernel drivers, those need some more attention.
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(10-25-2023, 04:39 PM)bitlab Wrote: Below is the current status of the bookworm external packages build:
Most external moode specific packages are build for bookworm 64bit and uploaded to the repo
Except for the kernel drivers, those need some more attention.
Super nice :-)
I can do the 32-bit Bookworm packages when the time comes.
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Props to bitlab! Nice work on the repo and nice graphic as well.
I haven't tried using any of the bookworm packages yet but I did try a little experiment with the localui since I keep reading about Wayland displacing X11. Some of the descriptions are a bit opaque.
Test object:
- Pi3B+ with official 7" display
- Raspberry Pi OS Bookworm Lite
- just enough packages added (imitating the old build instructions vis-a-vis localui) to support X11 and Chromium
- edited /etc/X11/Xwrapper.config: allow_users=anybody
- added /lib/systemd/system/localui.service
- added /home/<default user>/.xinitrc
- edited .xinitrc so --app=https://moodeaudio.org
Rebooted.
et voilà
Here's the screen after reboot
Maybe the rest of you already expected this but I'm relieved.
Regards,
Kent
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(10-26-2023, 01:47 AM)TheOldPresbyope Wrote: Props to bitlab! Nice work on the repo and nice graphic as well.
I haven't tried using any of the bookworm packages yet but I did try a little experiment with the localui since I keep reading about Wayland displacing X11. Some of the descriptions are a bit opaque.
Test object:
- Pi3B+ with official 7" display
- Raspberry Pi OS Bookworm Lite
- just enough packages added (imitating the old build instructions vis-a-vis localui) to support X11 and Chromium
- edited /etc/X11/Xwrapper.config: allow_users=anybody
- added /lib/systemd/system/localui.service
- added /home/<default user>/.xinitrc
- edited .xinitrc so --app=https://moodeaudio.org
Rebooted.
et voilà
Here's the screen after reboot
Maybe the rest of you already expected this but I'm relieved.
Regards,
Kent
That's cool. There are also some symlinks that for example map /boot to /boot/firmware etc.
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(10-26-2023, 01:47 AM)TheOldPresbyope Wrote: Props to bitlab! Nice work on the repo and nice graphic as well.
I haven't tried using any of the bookworm packages yet but I did try a little experiment with the localui since I keep reading about Wayland displacing X11. Some of the descriptions are a bit opaque.
Test object:
- Pi3B+ with official 7" display
- Raspberry Pi OS Bookworm Lite
- just enough packages added (imitating the old build instructions vis-a-vis localui) to support X11 and Chromium
- edited /etc/X11/Xwrapper.config: allow_users=anybody
- added /lib/systemd/system/localui.service
- added /home/<default user>/.xinitrc
- edited .xinitrc so --app=https://moodeaudio.org
Rebooted.
et voilà
Here's the screen after reboot
Maybe the rest of you already expected this but I'm relieved.
Regards,
Kent
on pi3 its xorg still
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10-26-2023, 11:41 AM
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@ tomaxsas
Thanks for keeping me honest!
I was being lazy and using the only system with an official screen and it happened to be packaged with a Pi3B+.
Not to worry. This AM I swapped the uSD card to a Pi4B, plugged in an HDMI display, and rebooted. Once the dust had settled the moodeaudio.org homepage was once again being displayed.
As far as I can tell, only the full Bookworm image and not the lite image make this an issue. For example, my pi400 is running full Bookworm and clearly is using Wayland.
On the Bookworm lite install, no wayland executables are present (ETA- and only the X11 packages I installed) and the chromium-browser process declares "----ozone-platform=x11".
Regards,
Kent
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(10-26-2023, 11:41 AM)TheOldPresbyope Wrote: @tomaxsas
Thanks for keeping me honest!
I was being lazy and using the only system with an official screen and it happened to be packaged with a Pi3B+.
Not to worry. This AM I swapped the uSD card to a Pi4B, plugged in an HDMI display, and rebooted. Once the dust had settled the moodeaudio.org homepage was once again being displayed.
As far as I can tell, only the full Bookworm image and not the lite image make this an issue. For example, my pi400 is running full Bookworm and clearly is using Wayland.
On the Bookworm lite install, no wayland executables are present (ETA- and only the X11 packages I installed) and the chromium-browser process declares "----ozone-platform=x11".
Regards,
Kent
Thats definitely good news for the near term :-) There will be plenty of time in 2024 to test Wayland in place of X11 and see how much change is needed.
I noticed that the tvservice binary is not part of Bookworm Lite. It's used to turn the HDMI port on/off in Bullseye.
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(10-26-2023, 12:45 PM)Tim Curtis Wrote: (10-26-2023, 11:41 AM)TheOldPresbyope Wrote: @tomaxsas
Thanks for keeping me honest!
I was being lazy and using the only system with an official screen and it happened to be packaged with a Pi3B+.
Not to worry. This AM I swapped the uSD card to a Pi4B, plugged in an HDMI display, and rebooted. Once the dust had settled the moodeaudio.org homepage was once again being displayed.
As far as I can tell, only the full Bookworm image and not the lite image make this an issue. For example, my pi400 is running full Bookworm and clearly is using Wayland.
On the Bookworm lite install, no wayland executables are present (ETA- and only the X11 packages I installed) and the chromium-browser process declares "----ozone-platform=x11".
Regards,
Kent
Thats definitely good news for the near term :-) There will be plenty of time in 2024 to test Wayland in place of X11 and see how much change is needed.
I noticed that the tvservice binary is not part of Bookworm Lite. It's used to turn the HDMI port on/off in Bullseye.
Looks like they are moving to KMS…
https://forums.raspberrypi.com/viewtopic.php?t=358424
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