[IDEA] Can I compile Moode 7.01 to run with the newest Raspian OS?

[Convert]

Hi all,

I love the Moode 7.01 for its sound quality. This has been discussed multiple times and please do not start this discussion in this topic.

What I want to ask is:
Can I compile Moode 7.01 with the newest Raspian Bookworm?

I believe in the early days, we had to use a script running to convert a RaspianOS image into the actual player due to license issues.
It is a while ago and I think, I did this with Moode back then.

Now: due to the new generation of Raspberry Pi 4, the Moode 7.01 image does not start.
If I use the script, I could make Moode 7.01 run with the latest Raspian, probably it would require some changes to the script.

Thanks in advance

[Hydra]

Hi all,

I love the Moode 7.01 for its sound quality. This has been discussed multiple times and please do not start this discussion in this topic.

What I want to ask is:
Can I compile Moode 7.01 with the newest Raspian Bookworm?

I believe in the early days, we had to use a script running to convert a RaspianOS image into the actual player due to license issues.
It is a while ago and I think, I did this with Moode back then.

Now: due to the new generation of Raspberry Pi 4, the Moode 7.01 image does not start.
If I use the script, I could make Moode 7.01 run with the latest Raspian, probably it would require some changes to the script.

Thanks in advance

The sound quality of moodeaudio's 9 series is definitely not good.

I just reinstalled 9.3.2 but the result is disappointing. The sound quality of the 7 series was much better, it is more airy and the details are much better.

I can say that the 8 series is in the middle of 9 and 7. I am using Rpi4 and the 7 series does not boot on rpi4.

I have to use the latest 8 version, 8.3.9. Is there anyone who can install the mpd version of the 7 series on the 9 series?

If anyone can do this, it will be great for us users who miss the old sound quality of moode...

[ils1974]

Interesting... Supposed you're right. According to you, what would make a difference in SQ?

[Hydra]

Hi all,

I love the Moode 7.01 for its sound quality. This has been discussed multiple times and please do not start this discussion in this topic.

What I want to ask is:
Can I compile Moode 7.01 with the newest Raspian Bookworm?

I believe in the early days, we had to use a script running to convert a RaspianOS image into the actual player due to license issues.
It is a while ago and I think, I did this with Moode back then.

Now: due to the new generation of Raspberry Pi 4, the Moode 7.01 image does not start.
If I use the script, I could make Moode 7.01 run with the latest Raspian, probably it would require some changes to the script.

Thanks in advance

Can you upload Moode 7.01 to somewhere ?

[TheOldPresbyope]

This thread was opened a year ago. i think it fair to say that the lack of any substantive response shows no one is interested in actually trying to build moOde 7.0.1 on today's Raspberry Pi OS 12.10 (Bookworm) Lite with kernel 6.23.20.

Note that what you call "moOde 7.0.1" with its good audio quality is the totality of the Linux kernel and its drivers of the time, the Linux libraries (notable ALSA) of the time, the MPD of the time, yada yada yada, plus, of course, Tim's code which weaves all of this together into a player. Not easy to know what has to be kept as is and what can be fast forwarded to today's versions, not just so it will still build together and run but so the result yields the audio quality you're looking for.


Regards,

Kent

PS - The Greek philosopher Heraclitus wrote 'No man ever steps in the same river twice, for it's not the same river and he's not the same man.' (Sorry, I attended a liberal-arts college when that was still a fashionable thing to do.)

[the_bertrum]

The logical extension of what Kent is saying is of course that unless you know what component is improving the sound, you can't know what to build, or be sure that it wasn't something in the base OS anyway. To know that, you'd have to get scientific about the sound differences. First by isolating, through rigorous testing and measurement, exactly what has changed in the waveform reaching your ears. Then by generating hypotheses about how that change occurs. Then testing those hypotheses, again with rigorous testing and measurement. After all that, you might be able to say "it was ALSA", or something, then look at the differences there to see what improvements need to be made.
If you manage that, I'm sure there will be devs willing to assist with making the changes, but not until they know what those changes are, and why they work.