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I'd try contacting SMSL directly and see if they will do something for you. Maybe a refund or some sort of decent credit towards another model. I'm sure they monitor the ASR thread and you could also include a link to this thread.
I have one of their SA300 chip amps. It's really nice and includes a full frequency sub out for the powered Subwoofer that every audio system should have ;-)
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(10-25-2023, 09:59 PM)Nutul Wrote: (10-25-2023, 09:44 PM)thomas2j Wrote: 4. the DAC makes clicks when sample-rate/bit-depth changes
sorry i was wrong : i made some new tests and it is ok when i resample to the same rate
So my approach will probably eliminate the 1st-second-mute, but the (annoying) clicks would still be there.
You haven't answered to my other question, though... are you playing local files (on the SD, or external HDD), or using squeezelite?
i tried squeezelite and MPD (via DLNA) from logitechmediaserver
i play flac from Qobuz
i didn't try local files because i have only 44,1 kHz files
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(10-25-2023, 10:24 PM)thomas2j Wrote: i tried squeezelite and MPD (via DLNA) from logitechmediaserver
i play flac from Qobuz
i didn't try local files because i have only 44,1 kHz files
So my solution is not viable; but then again, the problem may lie elsewhere...
As Tim said, you may want to contact SMSL.
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(10-25-2023, 10:53 PM)Nutul Wrote: (10-25-2023, 10:24 PM)thomas2j Wrote: i tried squeezelite and MPD (via DLNA) from logitechmediaserver
i play flac from Qobuz
i didn't try local files because i have only 44,1 kHz files
So my solution is not viable; but then again, the problem may lie elsewhere...
As Tim said, you may want to contact SMSL.
Thanks
Do you have a mail of SMSL support please ?
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(10-25-2023, 11:17 PM)thomas2j Wrote: (10-25-2023, 10:53 PM)Nutul Wrote: (10-25-2023, 10:24 PM)thomas2j Wrote: i tried squeezelite and MPD (via DLNA) from logitechmediaserver
i play flac from Qobuz
i didn't try local files because i have only 44,1 kHz files
So my solution is not viable; but then again, the problem may lie elsewhere...
As Tim said, you may want to contact SMSL.
Thanks
Do you have a mail of SMSL support please ?
Don't you have anything in the device's package...?
https://www.smsl-audio.com/portal/about/contact.html
scroll a bit down and you'll get to it.
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(10-25-2023, 11:55 PM)Nutul Wrote: (10-25-2023, 11:17 PM)thomas2j Wrote: (10-25-2023, 10:53 PM)Nutul Wrote: (10-25-2023, 10:24 PM)thomas2j Wrote: i tried squeezelite and MPD (via DLNA) from logitechmediaserver
i play flac from Qobuz
i didn't try local files because i have only 44,1 kHz files
So my solution is not viable; but then again, the problem may lie elsewhere...
As Tim said, you may want to contact SMSL.
Thanks
Do you have a mail of SMSL support please ?
Don't you have anything in the device's package...?
https://www.smsl-audio.com/portal/about/contact.html
scroll a bit down and you'll get to it.
I tried the contact from the site but it doesn't work,
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(10-26-2023, 12:04 AM)thomas2j Wrote: (10-25-2023, 11:55 PM)Nutul Wrote: (10-25-2023, 11:17 PM)thomas2j Wrote: (10-25-2023, 10:53 PM)Nutul Wrote: (10-25-2023, 10:24 PM)thomas2j Wrote: i tried squeezelite and MPD (via DLNA) from logitechmediaserver
i play flac from Qobuz
i didn't try local files because i have only 44,1 kHz files
So my solution is not viable; but then again, the problem may lie elsewhere...
As Tim said, you may want to contact SMSL.
Thanks
Do you have a mail of SMSL support please ?
Don't you have anything in the device's package...?
https://www.smsl-audio.com/portal/about/contact.html
scroll a bit down and you'll get to it.
I tried the contact from the site but it doesn't work,
ok so i have a response from SMSL :
"It no need to update with firmware.
And this clicks sound from relays when you changing sampling rate.
As we add MUTE IC chip in DL200 design.
It is normal."
Very disapointing !
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10-26-2023, 08:05 AM
(This post was last modified: 10-26-2023, 08:06 AM by DRONE7.)
are SMSL saying they have a physical relay and the click is mechanical ? Therefore normal and not in the signal path.
Muting the 'chip' may have downstream audible artifacts where there are grounding issues between items and power supplies.
What is the full setup you have, Pi..Pi pwr...SMSL ? cables ? all on the same mains circuit/multi-box ? any other non standard hardware tweaks ?
Powered speakers ? etc
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(10-26-2023, 08:05 AM)DRONE7 Wrote: are SMSL saying they have a physical relay and the click is mechanical ? Therefore normal and not in the signal path.
Muting the 'chip' may have downstream audible artifacts where there are grounding issues between items and power supplies.
What is the full setup you have, Pi..Pi pwr...SMSL ? cables ? all on the same mains circuit/multi-box ? any other non standard hardware tweaks ?
Powered speakers ? etc
The click is not mechanical, i can ear it in my speakers.
Maybe the relay is mechanical and produces clicks in speakers.
I don't have any grounding issues, my 2 previous DAC was perfectly fine without clic, on the same setup
setup :
apple power plug -> raspberry 3B+ -> DAS SMSL -> Denon amp -> passive speaker
i test with an Intel NUC and it is the same even with optical output
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(10-26-2023, 08:29 AM)thomas2j Wrote: (10-26-2023, 08:05 AM)DRONE7 Wrote: are SMSL saying they have a physical relay and the click is mechanical ? Therefore normal and not in the signal path.
Muting the 'chip' may have downstream audible artifacts where there are grounding issues between items and power supplies.
What is the full setup you have, Pi..Pi pwr...SMSL ? cables ? all on the same mains circuit/multi-box ? any other non standard hardware tweaks ?
Powered speakers ? etc
The click is not mechanical, i can ear it in my speakers.
Maybe the relay is mechanical and produces clicks in speakers.
I don't have any grounding issues, my 2 previous DAC was perfectly fine without clic, on the same setup
setup :
apple power plug -> raspberry 3B+ -> DAS SMSL -> Denon amp -> passive speaker
i test with an Intel NUC and it is the same even with optical output
Then, I see using Camilla to up-sample everything to 96kHz (or 192?) as the only solution left.
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