Radio stations problem

[Hydra]

In some radio stations that I added later , a track does not play and stops after it ends , but there is no problem with radios that do not have a space in between , and some radios are interrupted even though I have a good internet connection , why ?

[TheOldPresbyope]

In some radio stations that I added later , a track does not play and stops after it ends , but there is no problem with radios that do not have a space in between , and some radios are interrupted even though I have a good internet connection , why ?

Can you post the URLs you are using for the stations which are giving you trouble? Without that, we can't easily diagnose the issue.

Regards,
Kent

[Hydra]

In some radio stations that I added later , a track does not play and stops after it ends , but there is no problem with radios that do not have a space in between , and some radios are interrupted even though I have a good internet connection , why ?

Can you post the URLs you are using for the stations which are giving you trouble? Without that, we can't easily diagnose the issue.

Regards,
Kent

My Dac is Topping E30 , maybe some buffer settings help ? 


Superstereo 1 =  http://198.204.228.202:8160/flac    New Wave, Adult Pop

Superstereo 2 =  http://198.204.228.202:8157/flac    Oldies, 50’s, 60’s

Superstereo 3 =  http://198.204.228.202:8539/flac     Pop, Dance, House

Superstereo 4 =  http://198.204.228.202:8030/flac     AOR, West Coast

Superstereo 5 =  http://198.204.228.202:8643/flac5    Adult Rock

Superstereo 6 =  http://198.204.228.202:8157/flac6    Instrumental Music

Superstereo 7 =  http://198.204.228.202:8030/flac7    Jazz

Radio Calico    = FLAC (24-bit/48kHz): https://radio3.radio-calico.com:8443/calico

FLAC 24-bit/96kHz Streaming URL: http://server9.streamserver24.com:18900/motherearth

FLAC 24-bit/96kHz Streaming URL: http://server9.streamserver24.com:18910/...th.klassik

FLAC 24-bit/96kHz Streaming URL: http://server9.streamserver24.com:18920/...strumental

H2O UHD (2330 kbs)    =  http://ice2.ikoula.net-radio.fr/h2oradio.flac

Bias Radio 24/48    =    https://admin.biasradio.com/radio/8000/flac

[TheOldPresbyope]

I'm not sure I have completely understood your description of symptoms but I don't think the issue is moOde somehow misbehaving. 

As a practical matter, I have been listening to the stations you listed, 6 of them so far, each for at least 10 minutes. There has been no interruption or stoppage of any kind. I suspect you may be having a network issue.

Does your problem occur with all the stations in your list?

Does your problem occur when listening to any of the stations already in moOde's Library?

Regards,
Kent

PS - for reference, I'm connected to the Internet via Comcast Cable Communications, aka Xfinity, here in Maryland/USA.

[TheOldPresbyope]

Ah, finally.

Radio Calico just went silent in the midst of a song. Checking the MPD log at /var/log/MPD/log I see a succession of underrun messages

Code:

pi@m820pre1:~ $ tail -f /var/log/mpd/log
Sep 16 12:30 : alsa_output: Decoder is too slow; playing silence to avoid xrun
Sep 16 12:30 : alsa_output: Decoder is too slow; playing silence to avoid xrun
...

Further, the station IP doesn't even return a ping now. That's due to the station itself or to some upstream network problem. Nothing moOde can do about it.

Regards,
Kent

[fdealexa]

Hello Hydra,
I am afraid that the issue is 96kHz: would you, please, try enabling SoX with 16 bit and 48 kHz?
Best regards,
Francesco
P.S: il don't remember the command to dispĺay the available n. of bit and speed of the connected DAC. May be that Kent do.

[fdealexa]

In some radio stations that I added later , a track does not play and stops after it ends , but there is no problem with radios that do not have a space in between , and some radios are interrupted even though I have a good internet connection , why ?

Hi Hydra,
have you solved the problem? If yes, how?
Best regards and thanks,
Francesco

[fdealexa]

Ah, finally.

Radio Calico just went silent in the midst of a song. Checking the MPD log at /var/log/MPD/log I see a succession of underrun messages

Code:

pi@m820pre1:~ $ tail -f /var/log/mpd/log
Sep 16 12:30 : alsa_output: Decoder is too slow; playing silence to avoid xrun
Sep 16 12:30 : alsa_output: Decoder is too slow; playing silence to avoid xrun
...

Further, the station IP doesn't even return a ping now. That's due to the station itself or to some upstream network problem. Nothing moOde can do about it.

Regards,
Kent

Hi Kent, hi everyone,
I have a similar problem on several FLAC radio stations, so I've been looking into it. In particular, there is a station that reports an anomaly every 30 seconds and I have to stop and play again (the error reported on the log is: (alsa_output: Decoder is too slow; playing silence to avoid xrun). I excluded that it could be network problems: I tried to decode on PC with different players (VLC, FOOBAR, directly with the BROWSER) and I never encountered the problem. So I decided to try and check by excluding the whole moOde supply chain, trying to use the browser on the same raspberry: it does not block.
Doing a search on the type of error I found a hypothetical solution: add the following parameters to each "audio output" in the "mpd" configuration (/etc/mpd.conf)
buffer_time "200000"
period_time "5084"
I tried it, without doing the "reboot" but only with the "restart" of "mpd", but without success.
I believe the problem may be related to receiving strange metadata, this is confirmed by the fact that some other stations freeze when changing tracks. What is your opinion? What do you think about it? Do you have any other advice?

The station is https://stream.and-stuff.nl:8443/riverside

Thanks in advance and regards
Francesco

[Tim Curtis]

Ah, finally.

Radio Calico just went silent in the midst of a song. Checking the MPD log at /var/log/MPD/log I see a succession of underrun messages

Code:

pi@m820pre1:~ $ tail -f /var/log/mpd/log
Sep 16 12:30 : alsa_output: Decoder is too slow; playing silence to avoid xrun
Sep 16 12:30 : alsa_output: Decoder is too slow; playing silence to avoid xrun
...

Further, the station IP doesn't even return a ping now. That's due to the station itself or to some upstream network problem. Nothing moOde can do about it.

Regards,
Kent

Hi Kent, hi everyone,
I have a similar problem on several FLAC radio stations, so I've been looking into it. In particular, there is a station that reports an anomaly every 30 seconds and I have to stop and play again (the error reported on the log is: (alsa_output: Decoder is too slow; playing silence to avoid xrun). I excluded that it could be network problems: I tried to decode on PC with different players (VLC, FOOBAR, directly with the BROWSER) and I never encountered the problem. So I decided to try and check by excluding the whole moOde supply chain, trying to use the browser on the same raspberry: it does not block.
Doing a search on the type of error I found a hypothetical solution: add the following parameters to each "audio output" in the "mpd" configuration (/etc/mpd.conf)
buffer_time "200000"
period_time "5084"
I tried it, without doing the "reboot" but only with the "restart" of "mpd", but without success.
I believe the problem may be related to receiving strange metadata, this is confirmed by the fact that some other stations freeze when changing tracks. What is your opinion? What do you think about it? Do you have any other advice?

The station is https://stream.and-stuff.nl:8443/riverside

Thanks in advance and regards
Francesco

Try setting just the buffer_time to 200000 and let MPD calculate period_time. The resulting period_time reported in MPD verbose log should be buffer_time / 4.

Code:

Feb 15 12:31 : alsa_output: default period_time = buffer_time/4 = 200000/4 = 50000

[fdealexa]

Ah, finally.

Radio Calico just went silent in the midst of a song. Checking the MPD log at /var/log/MPD/log I see a succession of underrun messages

Code:

pi@m820pre1:~ $ tail -f /var/log/mpd/log
Sep 16 12:30 : alsa_output: Decoder is too slow; playing silence to avoid xrun
Sep 16 12:30 : alsa_output: Decoder is too slow; playing silence to avoid xrun
...

Further, the station IP doesn't even return a ping now. That's due to the station itself or to some upstream network problem. Nothing moOde can do about it.

Regards,
Kent

Hi Kent, hi everyone,
I have a similar problem on several FLAC radio stations, so I've been looking into it. In particular, there is a station that reports an anomaly every 30 seconds and I have to stop and play again (the error reported on the log is: (alsa_output: Decoder is too slow; playing silence to avoid xrun). I excluded that it could be network problems: I tried to decode on PC with different players (VLC, FOOBAR, directly with the BROWSER) and I never encountered the problem. So I decided to try and check by excluding the whole moOde supply chain, trying to use the browser on the same raspberry: it does not block.
Doing a search on the type of error I found a hypothetical solution: add the following parameters to each "audio output" in the "mpd" configuration (/etc/mpd.conf)
buffer_time "200000"
period_time "5084"
I tried it, without doing the "reboot" but only with the "restart" of "mpd", but without success.
I believe the problem may be related to receiving strange metadata, this is confirmed by the fact that some other stations freeze when changing tracks. What is your opinion? What do you think about it? Do you have any other advice?

The station is https://stream.and-stuff.nl:8443/riverside

Thanks in advance and regards
Francesco

Try setting just the buffer_time to 200000 and let MPD calculate period_time. The resulting period_time reported in MPD verbose log should be buffer_time / 4.

Code:

Feb 15 12:31 : alsa_output: default period_time = buffer_time/4 = 200000/4 = 50000

Hello Tim,
thank you very much for you prompt reply.
Unfortunatly I have tryed but the result is the same.
Please find below some notes:

Code:

pi@moOde-FdA-Test:~ $ cat /etc/mpd.conf
#########################################
# This file is automatically generated
# by the MPD configuration page.
#########################################

music_directory "/var/lib/mpd/music"
playlist_directory "/var/lib/mpd/playlists"
db_file "/var/lib/mpd/database"
log_file "/var/log/mpd/log"
pid_file "/var/run/mpd/pid"
state_file "/var/lib/mpd/state"
sticker_file "/var/lib/mpd/sticker.sql"
user "mpd"
group "audio"
bind_to_address "any"
port "6600"
log_level "verbose"
restore_paused "yes"
auto_update "no"
follow_outside_symlinks "yes"
follow_inside_symlinks "yes"
zeroconf_enabled "no"
zeroconf_name "Moode MPD"
filesystem_charset "UTF-8"
metadata_to_use "+comment"
replaygain "off"
replaygain_preamp "0"
volume_normalization "no"
audio_buffer_size "4096"
max_output_buffer_size "131072"
max_playlist_length "16384"
max_connections "128"

decoder {
plugin "ffmpeg"
enabled "yes"
}

input {
plugin "curl"
}

resampler {
plugin "soxr"
quality "high"
threads "1"
}

audio_output {
type "alsa"
name "ALSA Default"
device "_audioout"
mixer_type "software"
dop "no"
stop_dsd_silence "no"
thesycon_dsd_workaround "no"
buffer_time "200000"
}

audio_output {
type "alsa"
name "ALSA Bluetooth"
device "_audioout"
mixer_type "software"
buffer_time "200000"
}

please note that the changed parameter has been accepted but the result is the same every 30 sec it gives the issue and I have to stop and play again.

Code:

pi@moOde-FdA-Test:~ $ tail -f /var/log/mpd/log
Feb 15 23:34 : client: [35] command returned 0
Feb 15 23:34 : client: [35] process command "close"
Feb 15 23:34 : client: [35] command returned 4
Feb 15 23:34 : client: [35] closed
Feb 15 23:34 : client: [36] opened from 127.0.0.1:59382
Feb 15 23:34 : client: [36] process command "playlistinfo"
Feb 15 23:34 : client: [36] command returned 0
Feb 15 23:34 : client: [36] process command "close"
Feb 15 23:34 : client: [36] command returned 4
Feb 15 23:34 : client: [36] closed
Feb 15 23:36 : state_file: Saving state file /var/lib/mpd/state
Feb 15 23:36 : client: [37] opened from 127.0.0.1:36840
Feb 15 23:36 : client: [37] process command "play"
Feb 15 23:36 : playlist: play 1:"https://stream.and-stuff.nl:8443/riverside"
Feb 15 23:36 : client: [37] command returned 0
Feb 15 23:36 : client: [37] process command "close"
Feb 15 23:36 : client: [37] command returned 4
Feb 15 23:36 : client: [37] closed
Feb 15 23:36 : decoder_thread: probing plugin vorbis
Feb 15 23:36 : decoder_thread: probing plugin oggflac
Feb 15 23:36 : decoder: audio_format=48000:24:2, seekable=false
Feb 15 23:36 : alsa_output: opened _audioout type=COPY
Feb 15 23:36 : alsa_output: buffer: size=64..65536 time=1333..1365334
Feb 15 23:36 : alsa_output: period: size=32..32768 time=666..682667
Feb 15 23:36 : alsa_output: default period_time = buffer_time/4 = 200000/4 = 50000
Feb 15 23:36 : alsa_output: format=S24_LE (Signed 24 bit Little Endian)
Feb 15 23:36 : alsa_output: buffer_size=9600 period_size=2400
Feb 15 23:36 : output: opened "ALSA Default" (alsa) audio_format=48000:24:2
Feb 15 23:36 : client: [34] process command "status"
Feb 15 23:36 : client: [34] command returned 0
Feb 15 23:36 : client: [33] process command "status"
Feb 15 23:36 : client: [33] command returned 0
Feb 15 23:36 : client: [34] process command "currentsong"
Feb 15 23:36 : client: [34] command returned 0
Feb 15 23:36 : client: [33] process command "currentsong"
Feb 15 23:36 : client: [33] command returned 0
Feb 15 23:36 : client: [33] process command "close"
Feb 15 23:36 : client: [33] command returned 4
Feb 15 23:36 : client: [33] closed
Feb 15 23:36 : client: [34] process command "close"
Feb 15 23:36 : client: [34] command returned 4
Feb 15 23:36 : client: [34] closed
Feb 15 23:36 : client: [38] opened from 127.0.0.1:36850
Feb 15 23:36 : client: [38] process command "status"
Feb 15 23:36 : client: [38] command returned 0
Feb 15 23:36 : client: [38] process command "idle"
Feb 15 23:36 : client: [38] command returned 1
Feb 15 23:36 : client: [39] opened from 127.0.0.1:36864
Feb 15 23:36 : client: [39] process command "status"
Feb 15 23:36 : client: [39] command returned 0
Feb 15 23:36 : client: [39] process command "idle"
Feb 15 23:36 : client: [39] command returned 1
Feb 15 23:36 : client: [40] opened from 127.0.0.1:36876
Feb 15 23:36 : client: [40] process command "playlistinfo"
Feb 15 23:36 : client: [40] command returned 0
Feb 15 23:36 : client: [40] process command "close"
Feb 15 23:36 : client: [40] command returned 4
Feb 15 23:36 : client: [40] closed
Feb 15 23:36 : client: [41] opened from 127.0.0.1:36892
Feb 15 23:36 : client: [41] process command "playlistinfo"
Feb 15 23:36 : client: [41] command returned 0
Feb 15 23:36 : client: [41] process command "close"
Feb 15 23:36 : client: [41] command returned 4
Feb 15 23:36 : client: [41] closed
Feb 15 23:36 : client: [39] process command "status"
Feb 15 23:36 : client: [39] command returned 0
Feb 15 23:36 : client: [38] process command "status"
Feb 15 23:36 : client: [38] command returned 0
Feb 15 23:36 : client: [38] process command "currentsong"
Feb 15 23:36 : client: [38] command returned 0
Feb 15 23:36 : client: [39] process command "currentsong"
Feb 15 23:36 : client: [39] command returned 0
Feb 15 23:36 : client: [39] process command "close"
Feb 15 23:36 : client: [39] command returned 4
Feb 15 23:36 : client: [39] closed
Feb 15 23:36 : client: [38] process command "close"
Feb 15 23:36 : client: [38] command returned 4
Feb 15 23:36 : client: [38] closed
Feb 15 23:36 : client: [42] opened from 127.0.0.1:36908
Feb 15 23:36 : client: [42] process command "status"
Feb 15 23:36 : client: [42] command returned 0
Feb 15 23:36 : client: [42] process command "idle"
Feb 15 23:36 : client: [42] command returned 1
Feb 15 23:36 : client: [43] opened from 127.0.0.1:36920
Feb 15 23:36 : client: [43] process command "playlistinfo"
Feb 15 23:36 : client: [43] command returned 0
Feb 15 23:36 : client: [43] process command "close"
Feb 15 23:36 : client: [43] command returned 4
Feb 15 23:36 : client: [43] closed
Feb 15 23:36 : client: [44] opened from 127.0.0.1:36922
Feb 15 23:36 : client: [44] process command "status"
Feb 15 23:36 : client: [44] command returned 0
Feb 15 23:36 : client: [44] process command "idle"
Feb 15 23:36 : client: [44] command returned 1
Feb 15 23:36 : client: [45] opened from 127.0.0.1:36930
Feb 15 23:36 : client: [45] process command "playlistinfo"
Feb 15 23:36 : client: [45] command returned 0
Feb 15 23:36 : client: [45] process command "close"
Feb 15 23:36 : client: [45] command returned 4
Feb 15 23:36 : client: [45] closed
Feb 15 23:36 : alsa_output: Decoder is too slow; playing silence to avoid xrun
Feb 15 23:36 : client: [46] opened from 127.0.0.1:60172
Feb 15 23:36 : client: [46] process command "stop"
Feb 15 23:36 : playlist: stop
Feb 15 23:36 : player: played "https://stream.and-stuff.nl:8443/riverside"

Have you replicated the problem in your environment?
Thanks again and best regards,
Francesco
P.S.: please note that the defaul values was 500000 and 125000.